----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel D. Whitney"

Noel, thanks for the post. I had forgotten about your experience with Meyer.

Looks like Stan Meyer has left a negative impression with many on vortex who follow this sort of thing, and there is no doubt he was a huckster, showman, and mentally ill, most likely. The larger question is - did he stumble onto any technology which might serve to add-to or improve-on the further advancement of the Brown's gas/ Joe Cell theme of ultra-efficient electrolysis? How did he power a VW with it (was that a fraud, also ?)

Noel writes:

Stan made great mileage on showing how little current went to the cell , but the actual shown current was only the current feeding the armature of the alternator to create the magnetic field! the alternator was rated in the region of 80 to 100 amps at 12V DC, so your talking about 1 to 1.2 Kw of power , relate this to the gas vol. and the whole question changes!

Did you view the cell powering an ICE, or just producing gas? Do you think there was zero energy anomaly in what you saw?

Another problem here seems to be that Stan had a number of different types of cells - as his patent portfolio demonstrated. And it is clear that in these demos, he could not always get them to work as planned. The fact that they ever worked at all - if they did - could be a critical detail, before writing-off the work entirely.

The most important question for moving beyond this sad chapter in the evolution of alternative energy is: can anything Meyer did be incorporated into the next generation of cells? Is the high voltage, low amps concept just a gimmick?

Jones

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