In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:47:39 -0400: Hi, [snip] >All the balls in the box are connected >in pairs, one blue ball connected to one red ball. > ><><><><><> > >But John Bell has stated and subsequent experiments prove that such is >not reality. The balls are not correlated prior to measurement, their >relationship is known; but, the color of neither is determinate.
...and exactly how does one know that the color is indeterminate if no measurement has been done, ie if one doesn't know (measurement is the process of acquiring knowledge)? IOW what you are saying is that one knows what one doesn't know. It's a clear contradiction. My point of view is that the color *is* determined, even though one is ignorant of it. (By analogy a tree falling in the forest still makes a noise, whether or not anyone is there to hear it). > >Another example: > >A beam splitter allows a photon to travel one of two paths. As long as >the observer does not know the path taken by the photon, an >interference pattern results when the paths converge. However, if you >place a detector in one path, then interference pattern goes away due >to the known path. No, the pattern goes away because the photons in one path are stopped by the detector (otherwise the detector wouldn't be detecting anything). It has nothing to do with what the experimenter knows. You can achieve exactly the same result by blocking one path with your finger. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
