-----Original Message----- 
From: Robin van Spaandonk 
 
RS: ...and exactly how does one know that the color is indeterminate 
if no measurement has been done, 
 
TB: I understand your position. Intuitively, I agree with you with great glee. It is identical to Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen. However, the data shows that the Bell Inequalities exist. Here's a good explanation: 
 
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/kenny/papers/bell.html 
 
RS: No, the pattern goes away because the photons in one path are 
stopped by the detector (otherwise the detector wouldn't be 
detecting anything). 
 
TB: That is the simple answer; but, it does not jive with current SQM experiments. In this case, we are speaking of *single* photon interference patterns. They create interference patterns because of Feynman's "sum of histories" concept. The interference pattern is a result of the probabilites that the photon can follow either path with a certain probability. When the photon path is known, the photon does not go away. The photon is detected at the convergence point; however, it is detected as a particle. It is not stopped at the detector. 
 
Bohm offers an interesting explanation by separating the particle from the probability wave function. But Ockham's razor rules! 
 
Terry 
 


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