Well, since this thread title is a natural, for an update of what can be acomplished by grumpy-old-men, for very little $, here it is...
Over the past days, I'm pretty sure that we have advanced towards a simple way to make a "pretreated waterfuel" which has an active ingedient consisting of mostly hydrogen peroxide. This can be done using air and water. Whether or not this is what is occurring in the normal Joe-Cell to some extent, is also possible but there could be other active species in either case. Because of the high efficiency of the technique, which is difficult to explain otherwise, it is also suspected/hoped that hydrinos are being either formed, or more likely 'released' from air, which is now being pumped and recycled through the precharging liquid using a peristaltic pump. To be more precise, this technique uses the oxygen content of air, and electricity - to make ozone, which is then recycled through a salt water solution continuously, over an extended time period, to make what is apparently HO-OH + other ingredients. Full details will be released - after either a submission for the H-Prize, if it is implemented - or a Bush veto of the legislation. I hope that these preliminary results prove to be true and can even be imporved on. Further testing should determine the exact details. Hydrogen peroxide is one answer to solving the energy crisis. It is a unique chemical, ideally suited to the situation where en-vironmental considerations and low cost are paramount (as long as you make it instead of buy it). Hydrogen peroxide can act as either an oxidizing agent or a reducing agent - and seems paricularly prone to decompose rapidly but safely in an AC electric field ! -- or DC with a strong ripple (more like a dam burst <g> if your alternator diodes are very old). The feedstock for making this electro-generated hydrogen peroxide is air and salt water (if that isn't unusually cheap and available as a feedstock, then what is!). Pure oxygen would probably be more efficient than air, but hasn't been tried yet. OK. To be fair - the manufacture of this potential fuel (now) does require grid power and that can entail some CO2 in another location - if solar,wind,nuclear is not used. But in comparison with batteries for auto power, calculations indicate that approximately half the grid power will be required (for equal mileage) when making peroxide, as opposed to charging batteries. This is difficult to determine and it could be more favorable. No claim is being made for an overunity system now, but it certainly seems remarkably efficient because of the low power level used to make the active fluid. This week I hope to have it run through a mass spec. Also I'm not sure if the normal Joe-cell technique is doing this or not to a lesser extent [that is - if orgone and peroxide are the same] but an offshoot of that pretreatment process is the way this technique was discovered. HOOH even at low enrichment is visous, slightly acidic and when shaken and has the distintive ozone odor and bubbles as much or more than poured Stout. In addition, when HOOH is used as a fuel in dilute solutions such as those produced in ongoing electrolytic pretreatement, its potential violent reactions are (hopefuly) eliminated - which is the big drawback to HTP (High Test Peroxide). The testing against 35% HOOH is what has pinpointed the active ingredient. HTP is explosive and is used as rocket fuel, but an auto ICE can be powered by hydrogen which is released from the electrolysis of dilute peroxide. In comparison to the electrolysis of water with KOH, in the very same onboard hydrobooster cell, the electrolysis of this fuel is massively more effieicnt - an order of magnitude more gas, tapering off fast as the peroxide is preferentially used up. Therein lies the challenge to make this usable. The suspected main reaction is: 3O2 + 2e- ==> 2(O3-) 2(O3-) + 2 H2O ==> 2(H2O2) + 2O2 + 2e- Jones
