---- Original Message ----- From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products

..and exactly why do you think the suicide bombers feel that it
is worth giving up their lives?

Because, if you decided to put them up to most standards of psychology, they are crazy, and train their young to join in the collective madness.

then we are also justified. We
were attacked,

. yes, but are your *really* sure you know who did it?

I can see where this is going...

There is every reason to believe that 911 was a "false flag"
operation set up by the World's elite specifically to arouse the
ire of the impressionable masses, including such as yourself -
thus providing an excuse to go to a very profitable war. And even
if that isn't so, there was no reason to bomb the crap out of Iraq
who had nothing to do with it anyway.

Even if Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with this (which is by no means certain, or put another way, has more chance of being true than 9-11-01 being orchestrated by the "Illuminati") they still would have needed to be dealt with at some point. I am sort of against the war at this point, little is being accomplished, we have not crippled enough enemy effectiveness, and we continue to lose the lives of our own. Unless we are willing to go in with all guns blazing, and level the whole place, at this point we are looking at nothing but a civil war. I hope I am wrong, and that it becomes a stable democracy. But I do not harbor much hope at this point.

America lost about 3000 people in the WTC.
This is how many your bombing killed in Iraq:-

<snip many 3000s>

War's hell, ain't it?

...and your administration calls it "collateral damage" and
"doesn't count the number of Iraqi casualties" - of course not,
there were so many that they couldn't keep up with them.

What would your administration have done if 9-11-01 had been carried out specifically on your people?

..and then you wonder why they hate your guts? .. they feel
exactly the way you feel Kyle, and both you and they think that
violence will resolve the problem.

Violence will solve it if the other side is dead. Then there is peace by definition.

Ever heard of a Pyrrhic
victory? - because that would be the most probable outcome, if you
both had your way. (No bets on who the "victor" would be).
Regards,

To use the "fire" derivative of pyrrhic and to the farthest extreme, it wouldn't, if we act now. Maybe for them, as we have enough nuclear weapons to sterilize the place if need be. If it gets so far gone that we have had Islamic radicals detonate nuclear weapons on our (American) soil, hopefully someone will have the guts to retaliate massively. Or, to clarify, "nuke" the whole bloody place.

--Kyle

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