From: William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorm Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Mark Goldes wrote:

> I believe they have done what they claim.

Why?

Because we have seen OU in our own labs repeatedly since 2004. I hope to have independent laboratory confirmation of some of our devices by the end of next month. Our engineers have also examined what we can see of their work and it appears to them to be genuine.

It's a bad idea to adopt "beliefs."  If you must do it, do it because
you've seen some very solid evidence.  Gut feelings can be a good guide,
but they're never 100% trustworthy.  Gut feelings become a big liability
when dealing with scammers who have learned how to manipulate the gut
feelings of others.  Whenever a scam is a possibility, it's time to stop
listening to gut feelings, and start looking for evidence which has no
chance of being manipulated or being simple lies.

> They appear to be honest and capable.

I have seen nothing so far to indicate they are scammers. They have said they will accept no further investment until the 12 selected scientists have reported their findings.

Appearances are facades, by definition.  If they're secretly
dishonesty, they'd BETTER appear to be honest and capable.

Did they appear normally honest and capable?  Or did they appear VERY
honest and VERY capable, more so than yourself?  If they appeared to be
normal members of the public like you or I, far fewer people would want to
invest.


> Nothing rings false to me.


BINGO.


Don't listen to what they say, look at what they do.  If they take
investor's money without first proving their claims, that means big money
is probably involved.  If someone is selling treasure maps, don't buy one.
If someone is taking investors for unproven FE devices, don't put your
money in.  Of course we shouldn't go overboard and BELIEVE that they are
con men.  Keep your hand firmly on your wallet, and start watching.
Start keeping score, and see how many features of known con games they
possess.

Heh.   Fancy, highly polished websites are almost a dead giveaway.

See my comment above regarding a refusal to accept investment until the tests are over.

The experience of LENR suggests that a path such as they have taken may prove to be an excellent way to move a radically new technology rapidly toward production.

Our own choice has been to focus on desktop Demonstration Devices that will light a few LEDs and turn a small fan. These will be self-sustaining and should be available sometime next year. 1 kW Modules will follow a few months behind. Toys will come along as well. No batteries required.

Mark

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