--- John Berry wrote: > Bill Lyne believes much the same [basic misunderstanding of hydrogen chemistry -in the explanation]
A google search for Thorsten Ludwig, President of the German Association for Space Energy (GASE), indicates that he resides in Berlin, Germany and is a spokesperson for alternative energy innovations in Europe. Recently completing a PhD, his doctoral thesis was on the Casimir Effect and zero point energy. He has participated in the Casimir Force colloquia overseas and is apparently an inspiring speaker with some credentials... ... making his inane repetition at this conference - of obvious and glaring fundamental mistakes in the original Naudin/Moller writeup - all the more mysterious... This does not necessarily mean that they haven't found excess energy [yet there is still little real proof for that] - it only means there is more high level ignorance in the field than there should be. One suspects another "mail order PhD" - ala Bearden. Repetition of a flawed experiment proves more about the repeater than the original premise. Jones

