--- John Berry wrote:

 > Bill Lyne believes much the same [basic
misunderstanding of hydrogen chemistry -in the
explanation]

A google search for Thorsten Ludwig, President of the
German Association for Space Energy (GASE), indicates
that he resides in Berlin, Germany and is a
spokesperson for alternative energy innovations in
Europe.

Recently completing a PhD, his doctoral thesis was on
the Casimir Effect and zero point energy. He has
participated in the Casimir Force colloquia overseas
and is apparently an inspiring speaker with some
credentials...

... making his inane repetition at this conference -
of obvious and glaring fundamental mistakes in the
original Naudin/Moller writeup - all the more
mysterious...

This does not necessarily mean that they haven't found
excess energy  [yet there is still little real proof
for that] - it only means there is more high level
ignorance in the field than there should be. One
suspects another "mail order PhD" - ala Bearden.

Repetition of a flawed experiment proves more about
the repeater than the original premise.

Jones

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