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From: Esa Ruoho
they can't say why its overunity - who would believe them?
that's why they went public and are picking out a row of
skeptical scientists to prove once and for all if its overunity
or not.
Forget all that. Can you answer the single critical issue of
self-power (or lack thereof) ?
If a self-powered unit exists now - where is it? - regardless of
any explanations/ skepticism - a self-powered unit is all the
evidence which in needed by anyone, skeptic or not.
Why not just call the BBC in to film it running under self-power,
while those supposedly skeptical scientists are debating the
underlying modality, which is probably related to ZPE/Casimir in
some fashion? Is that too much to ask from a company which is
seemingly struggling and dying for public recognition - and paying
dearly for much of it instead of putting those resources into
development ?
Let me say at the outset - that magnetic overunity [or magnets
with coils, pendulums, or some combination of mechanical recycling
of torque with a magnetic boost] will probably be demonstrated by
someone next year - 2007 ! as there are many groups who are on the
verge now. MPI would be expected to have something next year
and/or Sprain in Atlanta, and five or six lesser and "fringier"
efforts which include Perendev, Minato, Torbay and Steorn etc. I
would put Steorn firmly at the tail end of this list, due solely
to the way they have handled the announcement - but a single
self-running demo will immediately change that. Not that it
matters. Proof - not PR - is all that matters. Self-running =
Proof.
If Steorn were not so PR-oriented - and highly desirous of every
kind-word of public recognition - why else did they announce this
in such an expensive way, characteristic of a PR blitz (or the
"Czech Dream") ? shouldn't a company which apparently has not paid
their corporate licensing fees have saved the 100,000 pounds for
the expensive advertising and just called up Oxford/Cambridge for
a private showing? It just does not make sense - the way they have
handled it, unless they have been hired to do it as a stunt of
some kind. Maybe Branson or some other drama-queen is hiding in
there somewhere.
Apparently (or if) it is not a self-runner, then that narrows the
issue considerably, as **measurement error** is very common in
this type of device. Almost anyone here, especially the
"consultants" - if that was said in a derogatory fashion - could
have explained this issue of likely measurement-error to Steorn -
and in great detail. That is, had Steorn not "come out of
nowhere" --- which is yet another problem for their credulity.
There is a community of creative but careful scientific people
involved heavily in this field, and no one at Steorn was not part
of it - prior to recently.
And look at the wasted time. Steorn has wasted infinitely more
precious time with mundane PR details, endless press questioning
and facility tours, etc then a single BBC filming would have
accomplished on day-one ---IF--- Steorn has a device which will
self-run. If not - the most of us will agree that it is likely
measurement error.
Skeptics who want to go on record with the "told you so" thing
should be focusing solely on that issue: is it self-running or
not. If it is not, then Steorn has a monstrous problem on their
hands and will probably look like fools in the end.
Plus - did not someone at Steorn actually claim that they had a
device self-running for an extended period, but that they could
not show it for some strange reason --- like it had been
disassembled to make an even better model !
Ha! Sounds very much like the English crank scientist who claimed
to have invented an anti-gravity device but he cold not show it to
the skeptics because his wife had inadvertently turned it on - and
it blasted through the roof of his home and escaped into space !
He could show the hole, however.
Suspension of disbelief has its limits.
Jones
(not a Steorn skeptic yet -- just stating the obvious
inconsistencies with their story, and the sad way in which they
have handled what could be a monumental discovery, if it could be
believed)
Let me repeat - This is NOT the way science - even fringe-science
is handled, and that is why all the suspicion is warranted - even
though Steorn does not yet have the "tin cup" stretched out -- as
the less-sophisticated scammers like to do early-on.
