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From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:43 AM
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The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is any
danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can reverse it, and there are
reports that they do emit photons, perhaps someone knows more about this.
Living systems do not reverse the second law, which strictly understood
refers to ***closed systems***. Living systems are not closed, so they are
able to create internal order by manipulating external energy gradients in
one way or another. There are numerousn examples of spontaneous
self-ordering in non-living chemical systems not in thermal equilibrium.
Some studies of cell chemistry find very complex couplings among the
molecules, including exchange of photons. Bioluminescence is rather
commonplace among sea creatures in the darkness of deep oceans.
Mike Carrell
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