---- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters


hmmm
A sheet of paper inserted in the gap of a spark plug will
prevent my dad's lawn mower from working. Does that prove
beyond a shadow of a doubt that electricity is what powers
the lawn mower?

. . .   No. I really fail to see the comparison.

The point is, the Lifter requires some dielectric medium of a normal physical nature (by normal, I mean, not whatever makes up "space", but gases, liquids, etc.) There is no medium of that nature in space. So, how are we supposed to travel anywhere via Lifter, if there is no medium there for it to push itself against?

If you think that the Lifter will work if it is surrounded by an enclosed container with a gas inside it, to allow for ion circulation, but outside the container is the vacuum of interstellar space, then explain why it didn't produce thrust when I completely enclosed it in a large (but lightweight) dielectric shield?

This is really getting ridiculous. Jean-Louis and everyone will parade around any Joe Blow who puts together a lifter with some sandwich wrap and matchsticks, and flies it from hacking into the guts of an old computer monitor, but if anyone sets out to do some real, controlled science on this thing and see what is actually going on....well, the rest is as they say, history. Myself, Michel, Xavier, etc. have all been attacked in some form for trying to do some real research into this and find out what is going on. What we found wasn't what the Lifter people wanted to hear, so *obviously* we just don't know what we are doing.

--Kyle


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