Zachary Jones wrote:
Funny that ORMUS comes up here - a nice emergence. I worked with Barry
a while ago; even pitched the ozonation tech he is connected with at a
DOE shindig in 2001. I have a giant poster session in a closet
somewheres. Seems like an age ago.
Even back then they were pretty hush-hush about the exact nature of the
tech. If we reminisced long enough, and I dug deep enough, I could
probably turn up notes or such from my conversations with him.
Intuition tells me, though, that not enough info was named to reproduce
a mechanism (why, anyway? if there's value here then, all parties
interested in the best for things, should be able to cooperate) They
were on the down-low about it because it had produced the first
ORMUS-like material, but because of a lack of controls had also poisoned
one of the inventors. Barry's bio talks about it a bit, here:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/tw/barrybio.htm
(maybe this is not news, here)
Well - the Ormus stuff and David Hudson, in particular, have been
mentioned many times in the (far) past on vortex. Some of that was
tainted by the connection to the infamous Joe Champion, who used to post
here before 'the law' caught up with him; and take the heat for his
rather strange pseudo-science methods. Perhaps 'tainted' is not the
correct wording, as the jury is still out on some aspects of that
episode (not the criminal jury, which did not find Champion's work
convincing, but the only one which really counts- the jury of historical
revisionism which is part of the human meme-pool, so to speak).
I would say the overall impression of that entire scene was far from
positive BUT that is to be expected for anything which is both so
removed from the mainstream, and without much laboratory validation -
and Hudson himself has all the ear-markings of a PT Barnum type of
character, and few of the traits of a dedicated scientist. If you hear
him in person, you are likely to be far more convinced than otherwise.
Nevertheless - all of this subfield of inquiry came before "excitonics".
The exciton changes everything, and together with QM and the quasi-BEC
(i.e. "RTT BEC" or room temperature transitory Bose Einstein Condensate)
may end up validating parts of the Ormus concept - (and parts of LENR as
well) who knows?
BTW - the Wiki entry on this subject (exciton) is woefully inadequate
and misses much of the latest R&D which is largely being performed by
such heavyweights as Intel, AMD and IBM-Almaden but with little in the
way of published results. If not for my personal proximity to this area
and having an associates who is at least tangentially involved with this
R&D, it would be largely hidden from view.
This new cast of characters, the Intel-clique, would probably never
admit to even knowing-of the term: Ormus, or of Hudson, Champion,
Carter, and the like - but they may end-up validating some of that prior
work in surprising ways.
And you can be sure that the same hits turn up on google for their staff
as you get - so they do "know" of it, even if they will never
acknowledge it publicly, due to the aforementioned taint of pseudo-science.
Jones
