----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lowrance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually based.


There are scientists who disagree with Dr. Brenda, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU



No doubt, but Dr. Brenda said nearly all climate scientists now agree with the recent overwhelming data that clearly indicates humanity is the cause of global warming.

Well, since Vortexians seem to love a good logical fallacy argument....

....this entire thread is developing into an appeal to authority that is so large Godzilla will have to come out of the sea of Japan to do battle with it.

I've no idea who "Dr. Brenda" is exactly, nor do I particularly think the teachings of Richard Hoagland are going to solve much of our problems. I listen to Art Bell at times, I take almost nothing of it seriously. It is light-hearted entertainment, and I love spooky stuff late at night, real or not, it is all just as fun.

Should we try to cut emissions of "bad" gases? Sure, why not, but not at the detriment of the basis of our society, that is, the working class. Maybe anyone in an environmentalist organization should be given a severe tax increase to support a changeover to something else, or to be used to buy those dandy carbon credits. Call is the "practice what you preach" tax. No more or less stupid than the "how many congressmen does it take to change a lightbulb" thing, or however that little gem of bovine waste product was worded.

Does anyone here on Vortex want to actually work on stuff like this in the real world, like real world solar power, electric cars for the people (not fancy BS jobs that cost more than a Mercedes-Benz, but cheap stuff for the poorer among us), etc? Or is this becoming a list for the "new televangelism?" Believe me, if I could afford it, if it was available, I would use an electric car to go back and forth to work. (But I would keep the Buick for longer excursions.)

Does anyone want to really discuss this stuff, and make it happen? Or at least try wholeheartedly? I'm game, I've been working on things quietly in the background for years. "Vortex Electric Vehicle" anyone?

Humanity is destroying this planet, period!

Our definitions of destroy must be very different. Altering, changing, yes. Destroy? In my book, that would entail overcoming the gravitational binding energy of the Earth, putting it "in orbit around itself". Or, if you mean "render uninhabitable", no we aren't doing that either. Life will be here long after we are gone, if we go.***

But, that said, if you want to do solar power, alternative fuels, etc., man I am right here with you.

***What is that...optimism?!? I suppose, the Sun is now shining and it isn't so cold here today, the long string of unseasonable cold caused by the increase temperature of the Earth, no doubt. :)

--Kyle

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