I don't question the effect, but I suspect it is not due to the _static_ externally imposed electric field, which even if a few pA or even nA flow through the plastic walls will remain zero internally as you will certainly agree. I don't know, maybe some parasitic capacitive coupling of an AC signal, possibly the ripple on top of the constant HV.
Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Degenerate electrons, electron fugacity, and cold fusion > > On Jul 21, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: > >> Horace, >> >> Regarding that external horizontal electrostatic field effect, the >> electrolyte being essentially a conductor, and the clear plastic >> walls being insulators, don't you expect charges to rapidly >> accumulate at the internal surfaces of the vertical plastic walls >> until the internal horizontal efield from the external electrodes >> is exactly zero? > > > > Actually, that is exactly the first thing I thought when I first read > the article, except maybe the phrase "this is stupid." However, I > did not and do not believe the photos or data are faked. Also, the > authors are credible. Fig. 2 is very convincing. I took the > article on its face value and went from there with my thinking. Note > the plastic walls conduct, so when it comes to HV static fields, > there is still something going on there different from the case where > there are no HV electrodes. The plastic really isn't quite the > barrier it appears to be. More importantly, there is in fact a large > potential drop across the gap between ground and the HV electrode. > Any "neutralization" of that E field comes in the form of changes in > charge concentration, both in the electrolyte and in the electrodes. > Both may be significant and work together. The 2 molecule thick > "interface" layer on the cathode surface contains much of the > potential drop in an ordinary electrochemical cell. A change in > charge concentration there, on both sides, due to a superimposed E > field, can possibly assist a cold fusion mechanism. Based on Fig. 2 > this change in charge concentration does exist and has a measurable > or at least identifiable effect on the cathode chemistry and morphology. > > The gas mode version I just suggested avoids this issue entirely I hope. > > >> >> Michel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:04 PM >> Subject: [Vo]:Degenerate electrons, electron fugacity, and cold fusion >> ... >>> Some work has focused on the importance of superimposed electrostatic >>> fields in or on cathodes, specifically that of S. Szpak, P. A. >>> Mosier- >>> Boss, F. E. Gordon. For early work see: >>> >>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SzpakSprecursors.pdf >>> >>> This work noted structural and morphological changes in electrode >>> structure, dendritic growth, etc., in the presence of strong >>> electrostatic fields. Based on this work I suggested a change in >>> cell geometry to maximize field potential at the surface of the >>> cathode, and active area of the cathode. See: >>> >>> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Szpak.pdf >> ... >> > > > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ > > >
