OrionWorks wrote:
Thomas sez:
All three of us, Stanford, the Cruncher and I believe
that the web of life was divinely ordered. I have
previously made the case that, if the earth sun system
is viewed as a closed system, then the web of life is
reversing the second law of thermodynamics. AFAIK, it
is the only example of this reversal. Stanford is
making a similar case for the control mechanism.
Perhaps it's time to repeat once again what Bohr suggested Einstein
might want to consider.
"Who are you to tell God what to do?"
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jcdverha/scijokes/9_2.html
By all means, Thomas, express your opinions on how you believe the
universe operates. We all indulge in the entertainment on occasion,
myself included, though I must admit that Dougles Adams had a much
better handle on the skill. ;-) ...Just as long as you remain honest
with your audience and, more importantly, to yourself that what you
have just expressed above is a religious belief, not one based on
scientific inquiry.
Looking at this issue from a slightly different angle I have no idea
what religious persuasions Dr. Ed Storms might adhere to, or even if
he has any. Dr. Storms will certainly correct me if I error on this
point but I suspect he learned very early in his life the consequences
of traveling down the road of conducting research within a framework
of pre-conditioned religious beliefs, particularly as to what the
outcome SHOULD reveal.
Since you asked, I will throw out a few ideas. I believe that a reality
exists based on the intelligence that can be contained in complex energy
fields, in contrast to the reality in this world based on matter. This
other reality is frequently called the spiritual world. This and our
world sometimes intersect, thereby allowing information to be exchanged.
This is the basis for psi phenomenon, religious experience, and other
unexplained events. The various religions try to explain this other
reality, but with variable and limited success, which changes over time.
Unfortunately, a faith gene exists that is very useful if applied
properly. When this gene affects our efforts to understand any reality,
it blinds people and makes then reach conclusions that are based on
their own imagination, or more exactly, on the imagination of various
authorities. I find the hardest challenge when attempting to understand
this world, and especially the spiritual world, is to fight the faith
gene and keep a completely open mind. Nevertheless, it is necessary and
useful to have some faith. The problem is applying this faith to the
right facts and then holding on to these facts with a light grip.
Ed
I suspect it is difficult for many on the Vortex-l list to respect the
positions of those like Stanford, or the "Cruncher", primarily because
these individuals do not appear willing to personally risk engaging
one of the most fundamental principals of scientific investigation:
Questioning one's current opinions on how they believe the universe
operates.
This is a very old road that you and I have traveled down, Thomas.
There is little desire on my part to suggest once again that you might
actually benefit by opening up to a slightly less rigid perspective on
how The Baker bakes her cookies, the ones we all enjoy eating.
Previous discussions on similar topics have consistently rolled off
you as quickly as water off the back of a duck.
How unfortunate.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
