George,

Yes. I absolutely believe that Naudin measured an
actual and accurate (tiny) heat loss, and in a
situation where there should have been a rather strong
heating effect ... Is this remarkable?

No! not really, and it does not verify the Newman
motor as being an anomaly either, or cohering ZPE.

BTW This kind of measurement is not rocket science,
and would not benefit in the least from expensive and
careful calorimetry, which would only affirm the
situation. It is real, explainable, and there is a
definite small repeatable heat loss. 

The problem is in the interpretation.

Consequently, I do not believe it is evidence of
anything anomalous, beyond the well-known 
magnetocaloric effect, which itself is not gainful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocaloric

But that is not how you phrased you previous comment,
George  ;-)

I assume that what you meant to say is that you have
seen no evidence of an anomalous heat loss which was
in excess of the well-know magnetocaloric effect..."

... not that I am one to quibble over minutiae, but
Steven Lawrence hasn't posted in a while and we
someone to take up the slack ... 

J.




--- George Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jones,
>     If this is considered proper calorimetry, we're
> in serious trouble. 
> I would suggest checking out
> http://fluidproperties.nist.gov/cvht.html 
> for a NIST fluid calorimeter or even 
> http://earthtech.org/capabilities/dual/ for example
> calorimeters in 
> which one could have a high degree of confidence.
> Would you recommend 
> making an investment based on Jean-Louis' heat
> measurements?
> cheers - George Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Jones Beene wrote:
> 
> 
> >--- George Hathaway  wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>"I know of no "free energy" devices which
> originally
> >>    
> >>
> >claimed they became cooler while operating and
> which
> >actually demonstrated this fact under controlled
> >conditions."
> >
> >
> >George,
> >
> >http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0709.htm
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 

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