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From: leaking pen 

> Hunh, doesnt seem that way to me. High dispersal and insane surface to
area ratio is known for doing just that in chemical reactions and
explosions.  Look at fuel air explosives.


Yes!- of course this ratio is important. But NOT for the reason you are 
thinking.  In ffact almost the opposite. Thanks for the segue, nevertheless.

Since you mentioned the surface area ratio - of fuel air explosives, as being 
key: let's look at that closely, as it is the defining comparison between the 
two very different types of reactions.

The effective surface area with fuel-air explosives is much higher, incredibly 
higher than with superthemite. In fact, that is the only way superthemite works 
at all ! i.e. with less than full oxidation on the *first phase* of implosion.

In fact the effective surface area ratio could be about 10^9 times higher with 
a complete dispersal of say LPG (gasoline or any hydrocarbon) - in air--  than 
when compared to 100 nm diameter iron oxide and aluminum. A lesser diameter is 
probably ideal but more dificult to manufacture. Therefore, as mentioned- 
surface area is important BUT not for the reasons you or the' official' sources 
were suggesting. 

[however, this does make for a good "red herring" if you are playing spy-vs-spy]

This aboslute requirement in ballotechnics is for  planned but INCOMPLETE 
combustion, on the first and initial phase of the reaction. This is so that the 
nano-particle will still have tens of thousands of atoms which are NOT on the 
surface of the nanopoarticle but which are going to be highly compressed for a 
few nanoseconds. The secondary reaction is where the real "fireworks" takes 
place.

This then is the very reason that ballotechnics are said to be MORE energetic, 
not less. IOW you want the particle to burn away the surface area of atoms of 
small particles very rapidly but ONLY the surface area - so the interior volume 
of the particle reaches maximum compression (about 300,000-1,000,000 psi 
equivalent has been reported). This is not unlike the situation with nuclear 
weapons but the modality is non-nuclear and can be called suprachemical.

Why? Dunno precisely - but that high compression is the intrinsic feature of a 
ballotechnic explosive that makes it far more energetic than a complete burn in 
a chemical reaction. At least this lack of understanding proves that making a 
project "black" does work to some degree.

Actually, that underlying modality of ballotechnics is what I was trying to 
explain (hypothesize) in the previous post by introducing the "hydrino-less" 
paired-electron as *possibly* being the active unit for the greater 
explosiveness. This hypothesis could be accurate or not: for now, it only my" 
take" on it, and you will find it nowhere else, so please don't ask for an 
authoritative citation.

These electrons will have around 54+ eV of mass-energy each to contribute - 
versus about 5 eV for the complete combustion of a fuel-air bomb of LPG or 
gasoline. By mass, the contribution is even higher by a multiple of ~2000 since 
the electron is of such low mass.

Moreover, we know the heat energy available from those kinds of complete 
dispersion processes- such as we see in the fuel-air situation - is on the 
order of 20,000 BTU per pound of hydrocarbon (not counting the air). Now 
"explosiveness" is NOT heat energy per se - but it is related to a large 
degree. 

Explosiveness really gets down to acceleration (jerk, and jounce) and shock 
waves - rather than net energy released, but there is a direct relationship.

OK - the reactants, gasoline and oxygen have a density when liquid of about one 
gram per cubic cm and produce 20.000 BTU per pound of gasoline -- and this is 
about 7000 per pound of ash (CO2). That can serve as a baseline for comparison 
with superthermite, which may produce up to 70,000 BTUs for the same volume 
(not weight) of reactant... or not. This has not been published authoritatively.

Only problem is - with any black-project - the only way to compare any old 
weapon against superthermite is to look at specifications from countries which 
are trying to sell those weapons on the open market. Israel is one such 
country. Our military has turned this into a secret technology, despite the 
civilian interest, and except for that data which was published 10-20 years ago 
and can still be found in engineering libraries, which is where I ran across 
most of it - in addition to the internet.

Personally, I do not have access to any current information - but those that 
claim to - have stated that the conventional high explosve bombs which are now 
replaced with superthermite are at least two times less energetic per given 
weight. So where does the "order of magnitude" more energetic claim fit in with 
only a 50% reduction in weight? ....after all a doubling of the power is far 
from a ten-fold increase. 

Well - There are several other factors which limit the gain in performance in 
the finished product. One is that the density of iron is seven times higher 
than TNT and aluminum is about 2.7 times higher, for starters. Second is that 
the casing of the bomb does not changed much - or may even need to be more 
structurally sound for superthermite. Third, is that some percentage of normal 
high explosive must be used to initiate the reactions. All in all, the new and 
improved weapon becomes half the weight as before - not 10 times less -- as the 
superthermite reaction alone might indicate.

In civilian application - if that were to be allowed - we would not be so 
constrained, perhaps. We cannot know for sure if there is even a civilian 
application - other than brinding down tall office buildings with a minimal 
amount of weight to be carried in. Would society be better off knowing?

Yes, I will confess that much of this, just as with the WTC7 controvery - and 
every other subject which is restriced by offical decree - [in the free-flow of 
information] - is dependent on the honesty of reports seen online or elsewhere; 
but since some of it can be validated with digging through old journals, then 
it is not as suspect as online reports alone can be.

Even "Janes" has been criticised in the past as not being accurate on occasion. 
How could they be? since they do no basic testing -- They are merely an 
exclusive catalog and PR machine for the Hawks in the military and merchants of 
death. 

OTOH 'Janes' biggest customer is said to be the Pentagon ... but that could be 
true of 'Playboy', as well. Probably some of Hawks - like Cheney - may get-off 
on groping Janes' photos of weapons of mass destruction - more so than the 
glossy foldouts that the noncoms enjoy. 

Strange days.

Jones

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