Where is the physics in all of this? Surely the atheist Buddhists have a point when they criticize western physics which they find opinionated. This is consistent with how Buddhists in general criticize theistic engagements and no one can deny that the strong Christian tradition in the west could have affected physics. Buddhists have written many books on the subject from the philosophical standpoint. Concepts like randomness and statistical concepts are criticized as being used without motivation. The physicists are being criticized for doing as they think objective choices when in fact they are doing a personal choice. They western physics vacuum is not as void as the Buddhist void. Surely Buddhists are not that well trained in physics but they are better trained in what physics relies upon: philosophy. So, do read their critique. I am sure a lot of you will get angry just like I did.
On the other hand physics seems more developed in the theistic world compared to the buddhistic. Specifically regarding Islam in the west I am not sure that I share Powell's view that it is important to support Islam in the west. This could give the wrong impression to the Muslims. The case is that the western societies don't at all fit well with the tradition of islam. And when it comes to the central doctrine of submission there is neither strong support of it. I think the best thing to do is to clarify the conditions in west. Americans should also be aware that Western Europe is about to become Muslim due to the higher reproduction among Muslims in western Europe compared to native reproduction. (Se http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Muslim_populations_in_Europeand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate) By 2020 our third largest city will have a majority of Muslims. This has never been decided upon and it seems like the ones who were set to manage the well being of ethnic Swedes have failed their assignment. This could lead to civil unrest and conflict. Much more could be said about this but does it fit here? It could also be worth mentioning that I don't belong to those who decided to support the latest invasion of Iraq so I don't specifically speak out on how to treat dead soldiers in that conflict. David On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:46 AM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Edmund Storms wrote: > > I find the logic of this discussion odd. If, as Christians, Muslims and >> Jews believe, there is but one God, then they are all worshiping that one >> God no matter what they call it. >> > > You're making the assumption that there is only one super human entity > desiring to be worshiped as God, Ed, and you know what happens when you > assume. > > If many Gods exist, as Hindus believe then we have a problem. In any >> case, does anyone think that God would care if this puny, ignorant life >> form we call human happens to worship in the "wrong" way or misspells the >> name. >> > > He cares because this is a purification process. > > . This benefit only occurs when we use this instruction to live a better >> life, no matter what the instruction is called. So, why do we humans keep >> doing the opposite? >> > > Sin > > Why do we keep insisting that our instruction is the only one that >> counts? Why would any rational person think they have all the answers about >> the nature of God? >> > > It isn't from me, it's a literal interpretation of what the Bible says. The > only path for a fallen human to reconcile himself to a holy G-d is through > the system laid on in the Bible. > > >> >> On Nov 6, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:49 PM, thomas malloy wrote: >>> >>> Horace Heffner wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:19 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Pope urged to admit common ground >>>>>> >>>>>> Their letter, A Common Word, cited passages from the Koran which the >>>>>> scholars said showed that Christianity and Islam worship the same God, >>>>>> and >>>>>> require their respective followers to show each other particular >>>>>> friendship... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If it is the same Abraham it is the same God. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It takes a graduate school education in order to believe something that >>>> stupid. >>>> >>> >>> >>> On the contrary, I don't even have a bachelor's degree. I merely state >>> the obvious, and not from some book or faith. Christians, Jews, and >>> Muslims worship the one God of Abraham. Since it is the same Abraham it is >>> logically necessarily that it is the same God. >>> >>> We worship different gods, >>>> >>> >>> >>> Repeating yourself is not a demonstration of rational thought. >>> >>> we have different holy books, which have produced different legal >>>> systems, which have resulted to two different civilizations. >>>> >>> >>> >>> A difference in holy books, legal systems and civilizations merely >>> demonstrates the degree to which religion is a product of man and >>> interpreted in differing ways by different people. These things have >>> nothing to do with whether the God of Abraham, which Christians, Jews and >>> Muslims worship, is necessarily the same God. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Horace Heffner >>> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/<http://www.mtaonline.net/%7Ehheffner/> >>> >>> > > --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- > > -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
