OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas:
...
Your recent response to Grok:
Another interesting comment. You may have heard that
certain Christians believe that one of these days a
trumpet is going to blow, and they are going to
vanish. Well I'm one of them. That's why I'm not just
too concerned about the world's continuing to
deterioration. The main reason is that I've realized
over the past 1/2 century that there's nothing I
can do about it.
I think you would really enjoy an obscure film titled "The Rapture",
produced in 1991. See:
I read the synopsis of Rapture, the film, it is a typical Hollyweird
twisting of the Bible. Even the Torah's been done away with Protestant
churches don't embrace murder. Particularly a mother killing her
daughter. The (Michael) Savage is going on about the movie Milk, and the
cultural degeneration that it represents. This is one aspect of the dual
standard which exists. If a fundamentalist Christian pastor had beheaded
his wife, the media would have have gone into a full feeding frenzy
about it. However when the Islamist activist beheaded his wife in their
T V studio, it didn't rate a mention, except for talk radio. The
Oligarchy promotes anything that helps in the destruction of
Judeo-Christian culture. I can't get on any of the mainstream media and
talk about this, because they control them.
I
would recommend it to others as a good think piece.
I'm glad that you thought it was good.
I think one of my main objections to the concept often described as
"The Rapture" is that for many it would seem to imply that there is
absolutely nothing any of us can do about the human condition, coming
Biblical Events.
I have previously mentioned my belief, that is exactly the case. When I
was young and foolish, I thought that it was possible to change the
world. Now I realize that that things are, the way that they are,
because it follows the agenda of the Oligarchy.
There is often a Razor's Edge line between granting ourselves serenity
over what we are powerless to do anything about versus the courage to
change the things that we can.
See what you can do about convincing Grok about the insanity of his views.
The distinction is learned through
wisdom.
granted
This is a profound lesson I'm still learning, and hopefully
as each individual learns to surrender to a Higher
Power for which they are powerless against.
David Wheaton hosts the Christian World View program. Last week he
interviewed Ann Coulter. She mentioned Saul Alinski, author of Rules for
Radicals. He was the first of the community organizers. She said that
the book is dedicated, among others, to Lucifer, the "original community
organizer." Now we have students of Saul's; one in the White House, and
the other heading the State Department. This is proof that we wrestle
not against humans, but against a power (super human entity). It's bears
repeating while we have the freedom of speech.
It would seem that Grok loves of the sort of nonsense that we see in
Canada. They never had a constitutional right to freedom of speech, and
now there are certain protected groups, homosexuals being one of them,
which cannot be criticized. I assume that Grok thinks it's OK to deprive
me of my freedom to warn homosexuals of the fate that awaits them if
they fail to repent of their sin. FYI, the Minneapolis library has a
first edition of Dr. Alinski's book, and I'm going to confirm what the
dedication page says.
While I gather you believe you are "one of them", one of the lucky few
who will suddenly vanish as The Rapture manifests across the planet
I've done my best to be a part of that group.
and takes you and hopefully all your cherished loved ones onwards to a
better place,
We, the raptured, will be a minority of those who profess to be
Christian. Worldwide it will be half. You need to establish a
relationship with G-d, which changes your life, that is my definition of
born again.
I would hope you would find the time to ponder the
following:
What value and reward is a Spiritual Destination where one feels there
is nothing they can do about what is going to happen on this planet?
The world is, the way the world is. Dennis Prager has raised the
question, why does a good G-d allow suffering? My answer is that Lucifer
challenged him, he said that he would do a better job of running the
world. G-d has allowed him free reign over the world, and the insanity
that you see around you is the result. While he could interviegn, he has
chosen not to until the time of the harvest.
What value is a Spiritual Destination where one does not feel "too
concerned" about the world's continued deterioration, presumably
because their g_d will soon spirit them away miraculously from all
this earthly misery.
A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about the
expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something about this,
but it's not my place. More to the point, this expiation will require
blood shed, if I were to do that, I would be a bigger murder than Joseph
Stalin. I assume that Joseph believed that he was making the world a
better place, ditto for Hitler, Mao, Pol Pott, Castro.
I'm puzzled, Thomas. What is your criteria for qualification for
rapture status?
You need to believe and follow a path of righteousness.
Surely you're not implying that someone who spends his
entire life and eventually dies trying to change the world to make it
a better place won't get raptured, particularly if he doesn't accept
what I presume are certain beliefs. I hasten to add here that I don't
want to put words in your mouth.
Unless you believe and pursue righteousness you will be excluded. Your
good deeds are as filthy rags in the sight of the L-rd.
So, could you please elucidate me on this point if you would on how
you know you are going to get raptured while many of us, I presume,
you're not so sure about.
Well it's a belief. There are people who believe that they will be
saved, who are condemned, so there is no proof of salvation.
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