Two seemingly similar but completely different situations. In LENR there is good evidence of heat and nuclear processes evolving from singular experiments where the parameters are well known and easily contained. On the other hand, there is no evidence whatsoever that humans have the ability in either measurement or computation to correctly take into account the dynamics of the vast paramater set of an ENTIRE PLANET (geez, how obvious can this be anyway???). For all we know, AGW has tipped already (as is claimed by alarmists). Or maybe not. Our maybe are activities have in fact been partly responsible for the cooling, etc. We can't properly evaluate the anthropogenic contribution to potential climate change at this time, and those who claim they can are either deluded or frauds. And unlike the case with LENR, they have produced no evidence that they can. So it's inappropriate to compare AGW with LENR in those terms, although the subjects of fraud-for-funding and psychological tendencies (belief paradigms, etc.)are indeed closely involved with each of them.
-----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies >> <...> you will also believe that Martin Fleischmann <...>