Steven Krivit wrote: Jed, > > I share your amazement. Generally the prediction goes that they never > concede, they take their views with them to the grave. > > When I first heard that Voodoo Bob conceded reality of LENR behind closed > doors at a DoE meeting on Dec. 12, 2006 I tried to contact him. He avoided > me. Can't say I blame him. > >
> Those spicy citations you state below...are they Parksie or Petey? The stuff about "rooting out"? That was Park, at the APS. It was a memorable talk. I once had an audio recording but it is gone. I described it briefly in my Titanic paper and in some letters at the time. He started by saying this is the anniversary of the 1989 announcement. The audience laughed. I was expecting him to go on and say some magnanimous nonsense along the lines of: "this incident showed that sometimes scientists can be wrong, but that's okay, science is about learning and making mistakes . . ." Nothing like that. It was a raw meat vindictive attack. They are all frauds, creationists, lunatics. We are going track down every single scientist in the federal establishment who believes in cold fusion, and root him out." Zimmerman stood by and said nothing. I noticed his badge before the talk, and afterward I went up to him, introduced myself and asked "who did you say you work for again" and can I take a photo. He said "I am not officially here" and then -- in a hilarious gesture -- he held up a stack of papers accross his badge to hide it. It reminded me of that hilarious scene in "A Fish Called Wanda" in which homeowners return unexpectedly to find John Cleese and his girlfriend cavorting in their flat, and he, being stark naked, holds up a framed photo of the wife in front of his privates. Ah! You can see it here: http://www.baodatviet.vn/Uploaded_CDCA/lethoa/20081015/A%20Fish%20Called%20Wanda-John%20Cleese.jpg - Jed