A clarification: I was responding to Leaking pen, when he challenged me to survive in a room full of CO2 as proof that CO2 is not pollutant. To that I responded that even at twice ambient atmospheric levels of CO2, I would not even notice. In a subsequent post I backed up my response with some data.
I did not say, nor intend to speculate what effects double CO2 levels would have on climate. But, since Jed interpreted my response to Leaking Pen as a comment on CO2 levels verses global warming, I will go on record with the following statement: I suspect that doubling atmospheric CO2 levels would have some measurable effect on climate. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture Rick Monteverde wrote: >The assertion made by > > Fink -- that high > > CO2 levels do not affect human respiration therefore the > > global warming hypothesis must be wrong -- is not supported > > by data or theory. . . . > >[Fink] may be incorrect, but it is not nonsense. It is supported by some >data and some theory. Okay, what data and theory? Where is it published? What are you talking about? I have never heard of anything like that, and Fink did not supply the names of papers or references. >The assertion made by [Rothwell] -- that [Fink's claim >is wrong and therefore the global warming hypothesis must be right] -- is >not supported by data or theory. It is a straw man logical fallacy; he is >refuting an argument that no one makes. My assertion was not a straw man. Fink clearly made the argument that there is no danger from global warming as long as CO2 levels do not affect human respiration. (To put it another way, he claimed that the basis of the global warming hypothesis is rooted in measurements or assertions about CO2 affecting human respiration.) That is unprecedented and without any scientific basis as far as I know. If you know of some foundation for this, Rick, please enlighten us. Or if you claim that is not Fink's argument, then what was it? - Jed