Has no one learned? This entire conversation should be in B.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:40 AM, OrionWorks<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Kyle,
>
> Regarding my previous response:
>
>>Kyle sez:
>
>>> > From: Mark Iverson
>>> > Hey Jed, time to go take a vacation
>>> > and get some R&R... Go climb a mountain with your
>>> > kids. By the time you get back, Bill will have
>>> > ended the ban...you won't even know it was in effect!
>>
>>> Better yet, he can contemplate the error of telling
>>> people how they should live their lives, and come down
>>> off his high horse. Hopefully none of this will happen
>>> again, since Bill has thankfully banned religious/
>>> political topics.
>>
>> Really? That's your impression of Jed?
>>
>> I would suggest you might want to consider looking in the
>> mirror when you say that.
>
>
> I wish to express a public apology to Kyle MCallister. My previous
> comment was impulsive, and it shows so. Let me rephrase my prior
> thoughts into something less impulsive, and hopefully more thoughtful.
>
> Kyle, I disagree with your assessment of Mr. Rothwell's agenda of
> "...telling people how they should live their lives". While I can
> sympathize with those whom might feel that that might be Jed's agenda,
> I don't think that applies in this specific situation, the situation
> that earned Jed his temporary time-out.
>
> It's my understanding that Jed, as the result of making several
> prudent career choices in his life, is now in the rare position of
> having achieved a level of financial independents most of us can only
> dream of. Jed now has the luxury of being able to spend a great deal
> of his personal resources on causes he believes in passionately like
> supporting alternative energy, especially Cold Fusion. IOW, Jed has
> the luxury of being able to assume the role of a reactionary. It is
> often the job of reactionaries to ruffle a few feathers every now and
> then.
>
> Unfortunately, it is easy to perceive "reactionaries" as having become
> a tad too removed from the realities and practicalities of life. It
> can occasionally become problematical to take what "reactionaries"
> have to say seriously. It's easy to perceive reactionaries as having
> climbed on top of a high horse as well. Reactionaries can also be
> perceived as eccentric, arrogant, possessing a holier-than-thou
> attitude, and perhaps even a little naïve since many will assume such
> individuals no longer have to suffer the slings and arrows of being
> forced to work forty to sixty hours a week to pay the rent and put
> food on the table.
>
> I think what ticked me off, and what caused me to post such an
> impulsive response to your statement was that in my view Jed was
> unfairly banned for quoting a statement that was actually made by a
> Washington Post reviewer. The WP reviewer expressed a personal
> opinion/view of what could happen to the Middle East if Cold Fusion
> were to become a practical economical reality. Jed went on to state
> his OWN counter-views on the subject (which he cc'd to vortex-l) as
> follows:
>
>> I must say, I disagree with the sentiments expressed. I can
>> think of lots of more compelling arguments for alternative energy,
>> such as the fact that it would save tens of thousands of lives
>> every week and prevent global warming. Marginalizing some anti-
>> western groups in Arab countries would also be a benefit, but
>> small in comparison.
>>
>> In any case, I hope the Middle Eastern oil-producing nations
>> are not marginalized, or turned into a cultural backwater. That
>> does seem likely, but I hope instead that they benefit as much
>> from cold fusion as much as anyone else, and also from a
>> renaissance in science. Naturally, I hope the end of petro-dollars
>> will reducing funding for terrorism! But I do not blame Middle
>> Eastern nations because they happen to be sitting on a lot of oil
>> and we have made them extremely wealthy. I think that was a
>> misguided thing to do but it was our fault, not theirs.
>
> Apparently, Jed got banned because, technically speaking, he broke Mr.
> Beaty's temporary ban of posting political (and religious) statements.
> I don't dispute that fact. I also realize that technically speaking I
> am deliberately disobeying Mr. Beaty's temporary ban by deliberately
> posting additional political commentary on Vortex-l as well. Mr. Beaty
> is perfectly in his right to ban me. I have done so because I felt it
> was more important, in this particular case, to help clear up what I
> thought might exist certain misconceptions. I also don't think it was
> fair to Jed, and have more than once offered myself as a "prisoner
> exchange" if it would help get Jed reinstated back into Vortex-l more
> quickly. Call it an act of civil disobedience. ;-)
>
> Therefore, before I am personally banned as well, I ask you: Kyle:
> Where in these statements that apparently earned Jed a temporary
> time-out did you come to the conclusion that Mr. Rothwell is telling
> other people how to live their lives? Where in these statements that
> Jed made did you come to the conclusion that Mr. Rothwell needs to
> come off his high horse?
>
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>
