Kyle, just a thought. About the voltage to charge the cap the following things could be used to do so smoothly and easily/cheaply:
Capacitors of a greater value (for one shot attempts) A number of 9v batteries in series I do like your idea about the HV to trigger it and a more minimal voltage to keep it open, have you seen the water arc stuff done with just such a setup over at overunity.com etc? A battery in parallel with an autoignition coil plus a HV diode of course on the battery. Hmm, maybe a battery (big lead acid) can be used to keep it open too, so then it's just establishing the arc which can be done with an autoignotion coil, wait, didn't you already suggest something like that? But is 12v enough to keep it open? Or is it too much? hmmm On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote: > More links... > > "JLN" Patent > http://www.google.com/patents?q=10%2F472%2C714&btnG=Search+Patents > > Stiffler's research > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR1KOy0hbuM&NR=1 > > Imris Pavel's Optical Electrostatic Generator > http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Harvey, I can never quite seem to understand anything you say. >> >> Please clarify "The greatest mystery that perplexed me for years was how >> the discharge itself could emit EM as a sort of linear antennae." >> >> Since I have the opposite problem IF we are talking about the same thing, >> I could see a reason to expect an unusual electromagnetic field transmission >> from a discharge tube but I am not aware of anyone having noted such. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Harvey Norris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Harvey Norris <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > From: Harvey Norris <[email protected]> >>> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Plasma capacitor >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 11:14 PM >>> > >>> > >>> > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Kyle Mcallister <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > From: Kyle Mcallister <[email protected]> >>> > > Subject: [Vo]:Plasma capacitor >>> > > To: [email protected] >>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:29 PM >>> > > >>> > > V, and John Berry in particular, >>> > > >>> > > Figured I should make a more aptly titled thread for >>> > this, >>> > > as "Enough Already" doesn't make much sense in light >>> > of what >>> > > we're talking about. :) >>> > Yep had to look at that before reply. >>> > I have all five noble gas tubes at my disposal, and many >>> > smaller four inch discharge neons. The greatest mystery that >>> > perplexed me for years was how the discharge itself could >>> > emit EM as a sort of linear antennae. >>> > HDN >>> At least one key to the process appears with the use of resonant current >>> supplies that deliver under 6 ma. To gain a steady state observation of the >>> EM a larger air spatial volume flat plate capacity can be used to further >>> limit the currents to the bulbs delivery; which in most all cases at 60 hz >>> application from resonant coil sources will deliver blinking to the bulbs, >>> rather then a steady state discharge that produces an unusual emf as radio >>> wave. Thus the "extra resistance" of the air flat plate capacity placed in >>> series between each high voltage connection to opposite bulbs can engage a >>> steady state discharge to the bulbs each using the polar capacity of its >>> connecting plate enhanced by the the electric field between them. >>> It is here where quack medicine comes into play, because you can play >>> with these things, but dont touch both plates at the same time. Each plate >>> can be touched with no feeling of shock, ect, and seeds germinate faster >>> too. >>> Post more later on the subject HDN >>> >>> >> >
