All right, where's the evidence? I can think of ways for an EM pulse to create a net charge BTW.
Michel 2009/6/22 John Berry <[email protected]> > > No it is not, there is plenty of evidence that it is not EM as an EM pulse > can't become a static charge. > > There IS a phenomena that is created by circuits that are abruptly switched > that projects a charge in a way that I state. > > The evidence for this that I have not shared is somewhat significant but I > believe that going into that direction would distract from the relative > simplicity task of trying it for those who are mildly skilled in that area. > > Still if challenged I can provide further evidence of such. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Michel Jullian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes this makes sense, John's "something decidedly more instant which >> can easily make it through insulators" is most probably a plasma >> turnoff generated EM pulse. >> >> Michel >> >> 2009/6/22 William Beaty <[email protected]> >> > >> > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: >> > > That was my initial objection also, I believe that *can* happen. >> > > >> > > I also know that sometimes when a plasma is turned off the charges >> > > (electrons anyway) can be propelled into the environment. Tesla found >> > > this >> > > and so have most people who have played with Tesla coils and similar. >> > >> > Then I should ignore glass-enclosed plasmas which block the particles, and >> > instead perform a different test: use a grounded neon-sign transformer to >> > strike an arc in air between two electrodes, surround it closely with >> > electrically-floating window screen, then apply pulses of (positive?) high >> > voltage to the screen with nS rise time, via a spark. >> > >> > The screen will pull negative particles out of the spark-plasma and >> > accelerate them out into the air. Will I feel a stinging sensation on my >> > face? Will it click a geiger counter? Kill cellphones? If not, then >> > we're barking up the wrong tree, and Hiddink's effect needs argon/mercury >> > gas tubes. >> > >> > >> > >> > > And it isn't ion wind, it is something decidedly more instant which can >> > > easily make it through insulators. >> > >> > You'd have to test it personally to see whether this is true, since the >> > EM-waves emitted by fast-rise spark gap pulses are essentially the same >> > thing as UHF/microwave pulses. They create HV effects, yet they bounce >> > off metals and go right through insulators. >> > >> > H. Hertz and later C. Bose were performing similar experiments, and Bose >> > found he could focus the pulses with lenses, bend with prisms, polarize >> > and rotate just like light waves. 1mm microwaves act much like infrared, >> > yet they're produced by high voltage spark gaps. If the pulses were >> > megawatts over microseconds, fractional-joule and repetitive, no doubt >> > they'd kill electronics, and might produce those stinging sensations. >> > They'd go through walls but be stopped by metal foil. >> > >> > >> > >> > (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) >> > William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >> > billb at amasci com http://amasci.com >> > EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair >> > Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci >> > >> >
