>From Mr. Storms > Steven, it really helps not to have a ready made explanation, such as > you have, when evaluating the UFO events. Such expected notions cause > a person to reject data, perhaps subconsciously. For example, you > would like the phenomenon to involve some kind multi-dimensional > reality. You then ignore all physical evidence showing that the > events are happening in our dimension exactly like any event that we > experience in normal life. For example, objects have been implanted > during an abduction that were later removed by a doctor. These objects > are real. Changes have have been found in the retina of the eye when a > person has been near one of the crafts during landing. Apparently the > intense microwave radiation causes permanent damage. In fact, this is > one way the UFO investigators can tell if a person is telling the > truth. Women have been found to be pregnant, as verified by a doctor, > and then are not pregnant for no apparent reason after an abduction. > Like most of the reported observations, these can be ignored in an > effort to avoid believing the events are real. Actually, it does not > matter what an individual believes about this subject because the > events will take place regardless of what we believe. We have no > control. Perhaps, it is best to ignore the whole subject and go about > life without the resulting anxiety. > > As for David Jacobs, if you read his books you will learn that many > people remember the abductions in great detail without need for > hypnosis. Their memories are very similar to the retrieved memories. > In fact, Jacobs is very aware of the problems associated with hypnosis > and takes great pains to avoid them. Raising such issues is like the > skeptics who question the reality of CF using problems that every > person in the field understands better than the skeptic and takes > great pains to avoid.
Shoot, Ed. I'm not at all denying the possibility that a portion of the population may indeed be involved in classic "UFO abduction" scenarios. I can only tell you what I have surmised after years of looking into the phenomenon, after talking to the experiencers I've met myself. FWIW, I used to believe that most of these abductions were indeed happening - in the literal sense. However, after many years of looking into the process, I'm personally no longer as convinced as I used to be of such literal interpretations. That doesn't make such experiences any less real. In fact, I'm beginning to suspect what may be happening is even more real and/or significant than attempts to classify such experiences/encounters as nothing more than classic run-of-the-mill UFO abductions conducted by aliens. At present, I just don't have enough information to surmise what percentage could indeed be classified as authentic UFO abductions, versus... something else. While we are discussing the pros and cons of this controversial issue, why don't we tackle one of the most smarmy conundrums of them all - the alleged GENETIC component for which the classic UFO abduction scenario seems to partake of time after time, specifically the taking of eggs and sperm, of later being shown "hybrids", of later being told that the human-parent must extend "love" towards these sickly "hybrids". Biologically speaking, what are the chances that totally alien-to-planet-Earth creatures would even posses DNA? And even if by some miracle it turns out that they DO have such complex molecules that such molecules are being used for the same purpose (propagation of genetic heritage, etc...) what are the chances that their DNA would be so conveniently configured that it could be conceivable that we could splice ours with theirs. Ah, but they are smart aliens, I am told. They are highly advanced... so advanced, as the story goes, that somehow they managed to get themselves into a genetic pickle, where suddenly they need OUR genetic material in order to fix THEIR genetic material. Obviously, their technology is so vastly superior to ours that such "splicing" wouldn't be a problem. But... but... I sez to myself: If it is presumed they are so capable of performing such miraculous technologically precise DNA splicing feats wouldn't they have already figured out how to manufacture the equivalent of all our wholesome genes for which their species would need WITHOUT having to physically mine ours for all of our indigenous genetic fiddlybits? In a sense, this conjecture is similar to what Jed has harped about more than once concerning whether we would even need to continue to extract oil from out of the ground once CF gets a good footing. According to Jed, if CF becomes cheap and prevalent, we'll make it ourselves out of the base materials. I feel it is in my right to suggest the possibility that you, too, Ed, and others like Mr. Jacobs, etc..., may be just a guilty as I of placing their own personal set of filters on the analysis of this complex conundrum. For me, when I personally ponder this smarmy genetic scenario, my personal "filters" seem to concoct two potential scenarios: Scenario 1) Maybe this all hints of the possibility that such "aliens" are not so "alien" after all. I'm well aware of the hypothesis that maybe we, our planet was seeded long ago. Under such a scenario, yes indeed, DNA might indeed be quite prevalent. Actually, a no brainer! Actually, I DO think it a damned GOOD likelihood that our planet WAS seeded a long time ago. Nevertheless, it does not strike me as adequate in explaining other components attributed to the UFO abduction paradigm, which I attempt to sketch out in broad terms in scenario 2. Scenario 2) Such experiences which are heavily cloaked in the guise of genetic experimentation and extending emotional bonding with "hybrids" suggest to me the possibility that we are witnessing a collection of powerful archetypical symbols (a language) that have the propensity to acquire significant meaning (emotional impact) within the context of our objective scientific techno-oriented society. One of the reasons I continue to harp at such a possibility is that such "drama", heavily laden in emotional textures, strikes me personally, on a gut level, as a powerful symbolic metaphor that we need to "wake up"... in order to survive as a species, as sentient creatures. But I've rambled on long enuf. ;-) I'd like to end on a positive point if I can. I have found these on-going conversations stimulating and challenging. I thank everyone's input, both the pro and con perceptions. My hypothesis is just that: a hypothesis. A good hypothesis must stand the rigors of the falsification process. Regarding the ultimate fate of my hypothesis, it's my opinion that the jury is still out on that one! Ya know... in a way I find it highly amusing that I find myself seemingly at odds with a highly respected scientist who privileges us with his presence in this group - a scientist who seems to be arguing for the existence of UFOs, of aliens, and of honest to gods UFO abductions! How in the gods name did I seemingly find myself on the opposite side of this debate! I mean... ME of all people! Only within the Vort Collective! PS: I should mention here that if I were to advertise the current incarnation of my evolving hypothesis among certain sections of the UFO Abduction Community it is likely that some would conclude that I am a sinister agent of the government disinformation program; whose aim is to assist in the suppression of the truth about UFO abductions. Damned if I do... damned if I don't. Well... they did offer me good health insurance. :-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
