At 10:46 AM 10/1/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
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--On 12 June 2006 00:25:39 -0400 Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

As long as the base format is Acrobat text, the document will work
with our system.

Fine! So start with the abstract in that format, and include the rest of the paper, as scanned, as if it were graphics. Problem solved! Next?

Brian

Brian, unfortunately, didn't get it, why his "solution" was utterly inadequate. Given that it appears that, for at least some of the papers, searchable text PDF already exists (I pointed to the archive on newenergytimes.com), the essential barrier would be lack of explicit permission to host those papers in that format.

An alternative would have been for the text to be converted to a file as he proposed, and then for Schwartz would approve it. It seems Schwarz did suggest this was acceptable, but ... who was to do the substantial work? Jed could do it, if he were inclined. I could easily see, from the history, why he wasn't willing to do that on spec. He could put in a lot of work and get nothing, and it's not like he gains a great deal by having another paper to host. Sometimes he'll do the work, if he has time. Sometimes he doesn't have time, I'm sure.

The difficulty of this shows that something other than ordinary technological obstacles is at work. One factor that is obvious is ready assumption of bad faith; when something fails, it must be because the other side wants it to fail. In a situation like this, I try to focus on results, dealing with technological obstacles one at a time. At a certain point I would give up, when it has become clear to me that, if the other party wanted to resolve the problem, they have easy and ready means to do so. I won't jump through hoops beyond that point.

Schwarz could cut through this mess immediately: here, explicitly and plainly give Rothwell permission to reproduce the articles which exist as either PDF or iamge-over-text PDF (I can't tell which they are) on newenergytimes.com). Or explicitly give Rothwell permission to convert the hosted HTML text to PDF, submitting it for approval, assuming that the HTML isn't itself largely in image format. All of Rothwell's explanations make sense to me as to why he doesn't want to host pure image, or image-with-abstract-only, they make sense to me as a reader and user of the library, and they make sense to me as a host of content. And if you keep making the same CDs with the same CD-writer, they may still be unreadable with another specific one. I don't know about "one out of three," but I do know that interoperability failure is common, and could thus happen several times in a row, even if more than one CD writer were used.

Someone else who would like to see Schwarz's papers hosted on lenr-canr.org could assist in the conversion. If I had anything like the time necessary, I might try it. But I don't.

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