First, let me say that this is meant for all in this list that have used those, 
or any, derogatory
terms or phrases that imply this is a conscious deception by Sean/Steorn...

As I ALREADY stated, a search of the last few weeks, didn't find use of the 
specific derogatory word
'liar' or 'scammer' written by Terry, but there were at least three others who 
did use those terms.
Terry, who cares if it's a single word or a phrase... It's still unjustified 
until you have
irrefutable proof.  In your work with the Sprain affair, from your own 
admission, you were subject
to quite unpleasant treatment which weighed heavily on you... You are walking a 
fine line, easily
crossed, in doing what you yourself were subject to.  Those others already 
crossed it as far as I'm
concerned.

If this turns out to be what you think it is, a sham, then fire away!!! I'll 
probably pull the
trigger a time or two as well... But that time has not yet come, and there is 
no clear evidence YET,
that Steorn is running a scam.  Perhaps they are like Sprain... Sincerely 
thinking they were on to
something novel, but learn the hard way about how mother nature can fool even 
the best... Time will
tell, and soon... I doubt they will survive another failure to prove their 
claims.  Their collective
necks are stuck out further than probably anyone on this list ever has done... 
And I think they know
it.  For every reason you (all of you) can come up with as to why they must be 
lying or running a
scam, I think I could come up with rational reasons why they are probably 
sincere... I said sincere,
not necessarily right!  And as for SJ's comment about what 'credentials' I have 
that might make my
reading of intentions have any weight, I'll also deal with when I have time, 
but I have probably
seen about as much ugly human behavior as most anyone on this list, and have 
been pressured to
'stretch the truth' to secure 10s of millions in funding... I have NO problem 
looking myself in the
mirror.

It all comes down to how would you want others to treat you if you were in 
their situation?  I would
think that you would just want people to hold off on any judgements or name 
calling or derogatory
innuendos until you had the chance to prove your claims... 
   *** That's all I am arguing for here ***

And it has nothing at all to do with wanting to 'believe'... I'll respond to 
that nonsense when I
have more time.  As explained before, I am tired of the claims just as much as 
any one else.. I've
heard them all for 30 years.  But I've also seen good, sincere people seriously 
hurt by such
careless, premature speculations.

So that's as good as it gets, Terry.  If we ever have the good fortune to meet 
in person, I'll buy
the first round! Fair enough?

-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote:
> TB: Please cite any post whereby I called them any names.

Not one instance of me calling Steorn a name.  Yep, lots of derogatory remarks 
and plenty more to
come unless Steorn proves their case.


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