At 03:09 PM 4/4/2010, Horace Heffner wrote:

On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

If Takahashi's math is confirmed, we have a real candidate for an
explanation, though not necessarily the whole story.

It is not Takahashi's math that is in question, but his assumptions
and the implications of his conclusions.

The math should be in question. It is difficult, and it is a finding that, all by itself, contradicts the assumption that fusion is impossible at room temperature. Rather, one would have to retreat: fusion may be impossible unless a particular physical configuration of two deuterium molecules can form with enough frequency to create an effect.

(2) Takahashi's math is based, indeed, on an assumption that the TSC configuration can form. You have to start somewhere! I would guess that he was looking for an explanation for an experimental fact: multibody fusion does happen, he found evidence for 3D and 4D fusion, as I recall. What could possibly lead to this? Normally, we'd think that if 2D fusion is so rare as to be practically impossible, 3D would be even more impossible. But what if a lattice confines molecules in some way, orients them? What could happen. What Takahashi found was that, under an extreme condition, not known to occur, but also not known to *not* occur, but only seemingly very rare, at best, fusion is *expected.*

That's huge.

He is tracking back from a finding that multibody fusion happens. Most fusion theories do not allow for multibody fusion at all, I think of Kim, which may be some kind of variation on Takahashi's theory. Or not. I wish they'd talk to each other and let us listen in!

(3) Bottom line, Takahashi's theory at present requires the presence of two deuterium molecules in confinement in some way; the way he says it in the ACS Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook (p. 58) is to give three models "to initiate TSC formation":

One is the TSC formation in regular Pd lattice in D-flow from O-site to T-site by D-lattice phonon excitation. The second model is the TSC formation by the collison-combination process between trapped D2 molecule[s], being lost freedom of rotation, and incoming D2 molecule on the surface of metal-D systems. The third idea is the random formation of TSC by combination of two "bosonized" molecules of dde*(2,2) in the near-surface of Fermi-level-gap of PdDx and CaO (or other insulator with low work function); generation of Cooper pair near on Fermi surface may play a key role in this case.

Who edited this, any way?

I'd read this paper before, but since then, have done a lot of discussion of TSC theory, and have had to think a lot about how TSC might form, and I'm gratified to find that I did come up with the simplest of his three models, in a private e-mail today. I now understand and can retain more of the paper, but most of it is still way over my head. (Contrary to what I'd said before, he was explicit about two deuterium molecules.)

He's not assuming any particular mechanism of TSC formation in his paper. He mentions three possibilities, that's all. The work to attempt to predict the frequency that TSC would form has either not been done, or has not, to my knowledge, been published. But this is what I think:

Some frequency of trapping of D2 molecules at the surface of the lattice should be expected. The surface is where, I assume, dissociation of D2 to individual deuterons takes place. Off the top of my head, not having studied this process, I'd imagine that a D2 molecule peaks its head into a lattice, crossing a bit of a potential barrier at the face; perhaps the forces when the head is in and the neck is squeezed are such to separate them, as those electrons decide the lattice is a freer place, or perhaps at this moment, dissociation is aided by the action of other molecules. But sometimes, as the head is peeking in, the tail is whacked just right (or it had just the right momentum) and the whole thing is pushed in. It's tight in there, and i don't think that this is stable, but it might last for a while. And then another molecule hits at the right position and angle to squeeze in too. They have no freedom of motion to speak of now, they can't rotate, they can only fit in one way, with the deuterium nuclei forming a tetrahedron. If they are in low relative motion, they condense and Bang!

Or whatever happens when fusion occurs within a BEC. Do we know how these behave? What does it mean to "fuse within a BEC?" (if they aren't separate, how do they fuse, or, perhaps more to the point, how do they *not* fuse? How tightly coupled will this BEC be to the confining palladium?

Often it's pointed out that Bose-Einstein Condensates are only known to form at low temperature. But "temperature" refers to relative motion of the component molecules. If for some reason they have no relative motion, they would be at zero temperature. We are not accustomed to thinking of "pockets" of low temperature within objects of higher temperature, but this would be a transient "pocket" of only two molecules. What's the frequency of that?

What I see is that, without doing the heavy math or other heavy lifting, TSC theory is being rejected based on assumptions about what is and what is not possible, that are not examined in detail. Obviously there are objections, but I'm not seeing that they are necesarily insuperable.

The way I put it in a mail today was that TSC theory still requires one miracle: that the TSC forms. I'm pretty sure that there is some incidence of single molecular confinement. That's not a miracle. But that another molecule also gets confined, I'll call that a miracle. Not to be expected. But, then, with what must be an extraordinarily rare reaction, "not expected" should be looked at much more closely: *how much* not expected? *How often* would this be occur?

Widom-Larsen theory requires two miracles. The first is the unconfirmed and unexpected creation of ULM neutrons at significant levels. The second is the absence of intermediate and other products not observed.

And, of course, "cold fusion," when it was *assumed* that if it's fusion, it must be d-d fusion, plain and simple, required three miracles.

Notice how "miracle" is imagined by a poverty of our understanding of the possibilities.

If someone has the knowledge and does the math to predict how often the TSC conditions would form, and it predicts something like observable fusion rates, it would no longer be a miracle, it would simply be science. It would still need to be confirmed! I suspect though, that some aspects of this are simply not well enough known. We'll see, as more attention begins to be focused, as publication rates continue to increase and more of the best theorists start to pay attention, and experiment turns to testing the predictions of theory. This is far from easy stuff, and it's possible that no one person can pull it off.

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