At 01:46 AM 5/6/2010, [email protected] wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:58:23 -0400:
>You mean into a single lattice site, I assume, but you are assuming
>that the confinement site is within the clean lattice. The lattice
>will contain defects that might be more accomodating. Further,
>"putting two D2 molecules into a tetrahedral site" is definitely
>difficult! First of all, putting one in is difficult; but the
>question is "how difficult?" If there is one in a site already, and
>conditions exerting pressure of D2 gas, how common would be a
>transient occurrence of two? It could be very rare and very
>transient, but it only takes a femtosecond or less to get some
>fusion, according to Takahashi's calculations. I'd say that an urgent
>task for the competent would be to verify this. Let me put it this
>way, it's a different question than what Takahashi addressed: What
>degree of confinement would be necessary before the TSC
>formation/fusion would begin to have significant cross-section?
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While Deuterium molecules may have difficulty fitting into a normal lattice,
Deuterino molecules could do so easily. Furthermore, they could be
magnetically
bound with at least several eV of energy ensuring that they stay coupled
together.
Sure. But before considering deuterinos as relevant to cold fusion,
the existence of hydrinos and deuterinos should be confirmed. Mills'
work with spectra, etc., should be examined carefully by people who
aren't just going to knee-jerk reject it or, on the other hand,
enthusiastically accept it because it could mean low-cost energy.
Mills is attempting an end run around the normal scientific process,
because he's been forced to. That's one reason why the ready
rejection of "fringe theory" is a Bad Idea. Absolutely, fringe theory
should be criticized, but this should be from the point of view of
making predictions from it and then confirming or disconfirming the
predictions. A theory that can't predict is little more than a way of
organizing thoughts and has little or no substance.
From Pons and Fleischmann's work, Preparata looked at some theory
and predicted that helium would be found, and he was right. But that
doesn't mean that Preparata's theory was correct, it was simply a
clue and we should remember that he was right. Predicting helium
wasn't totally obvious, since it's not normally a common fusion
product, so Preparata and his theories should definitely get some points....
Hydrinos/Deuterinos aren't terribly helpful yet as an explanation,
but if it turns out that the concentration of PdD4 predicted is way
too low, and unless some variation in cavity size allows it and it
will still collapse, it is a possible "escape hatch." But if there is
no other evidence good enough to establish the existence of
hydrinos/deuterinos....
The implication being that maybe a Mills catalytic process creates
the molecules
that then bind into the correct configuration due to magnetic
forces, such that
the Takahashi process can occur.
That's correct. But we don't know, as far as I can tell, if it's
necessary to have Mills catalysis.
What I'd think of is studying the occurrence of PdD2, i.e, a single
molecule of D2 confined, if Takahashi is correct, this configuration
should have some measurable occurrence, I'm imagining that this would
have some characteristic spectra. It would probably only be this
common (which isn't necessarily "common," at the surface. Measuring
PdD4 itself, the double molecular confinment, if Takahashi is
correct, may be impossible because it would be so transient; however,
the Be-8 should have some characteristic photon emissions that might
be difficult but not impossible to detect. Other than by emissions
like this, Be-8 measurement would also be very difficult.
What I expect is *some* frequency of single molecular confinement.
From this, then, if it can be measured, it might be possible to
predict the double confinment. I'm guessing that single confinement
would be almost entirely at the surface, so if there is a deuterium
flux at that point, deuterium gas at the surface of the lattice at a
certain temperature, it might be possible to predict the behavior of
an incident molecule.
What's needed here is careful study of how hydrogen and deuterium
behave as they enter the lattice. The overall process normally
results in breaking the molecular bond and stripping away the
electrons, which are then shared across the lattice with the Pd-D
alloy. The electrons are needed as part of the BEC.
