At 08:49 AM 4/5/2010, Roarty, Francis X wrote:

On Sun April 4, 2010 Abd said

“That's huge.

He is tracking back from a finding that multibody fusion happens. Most fusion theories do not allow for multibody fusion at all, I think of Kim, which may be some kind of variation on Takahashi's theory. Or not. I wish they'd talk to each other and let us listen in!

(3) Bottom line, Takahashi's theory at present requires the presence of two deuterium molecules in confinement in some way; the way he says it in the ACS Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook (p. 58) is to give three models "to initiate TSC formation":


Abd,
I take it 3 body fusion is quite different than the 3 body collision Robin spoke of to produce a photon – where one is chemical and really not a collision at all but rather orbital interactions while you are speaking of actual nuclear fusion between 2 d2 molecules. Could this be mix where the Casimir confinement maintains a rigid orbital alignment of each molecule to keep the molecules on a common axis and reduce the columbic barrier?

What's involved is, indeed, not a collision, though some kinds of collisions under special circumstances could produce the condition that would lead to 2-molecule fusion. What is involved is practically the opposite of a collision, but a stationary relationship of two molecules, confined as they might be under unusual conditions in the lattice (molecular deuterium is ordinarily considered to be absent inside the lattice, which neglects the boundary). 3-body fusion would be, possibly, a deuterium molecule that is impacted while confined by an energetic deuteron under the right conditions. Takahashi did detect, in the bombardment experiments, evidence for 3-deuteron fusion, which was quite unexpected. Those are not the conditions of most cold fusion experiments, which don't seem to involve 3-deuteron fusion at all, but rather, perhaps, 4 deuterons. Two molecules.

These f/h theories don’t specify a specific orientation and one would assume only the size is modified but if Naudts is correct about the effect being relativistic would this predict a common orientation?
Regards
Fran

I don't have a clue. TSC theory assumes a specific orientation, that of maximum packing efficiency. Very much is unknown.


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