Michel, Can you cite the reference for this kind of bursting tube, due to internal pressurization, having being actually performed?
I have heard this before but not been able to verify it. The reason that I think it would be unlikely is that it presents an easy avenue for demonstrating gain - via direct conversion of oscillating pressure into electricity (via a magnet/coil attached to a bellows tube). I've mentioned this before. Someone with a little inventive curiosity would have done it by now if enormous pressure results from applied current only, and should have at least reported the results (if null). A high internal pressurization would be easily oscillated by AC in a palladium bellows tube of course, since it would have to be reversible - even if not gainful. A putative gain would be the expected result of the added heat from fusion. "Direct conversion" alone (of oscillating pressure into electricity) would be an important advance in getting LENR to market on a small scale without the need for lossy systems like TEG (5-7% efficiency) or steam (hard to scale down). Well - not just an important advance but *huge*. If I had not mentioned this possibility several times in past years, to no avail - then I might be inclined to rush off to the patent office, but methinks the "bursting tube" is a myth. Jones -----Original Message----- From: Michel Jullian No Abd, Shanahan may be wrong on many points but the "equivalent to many atmospheres of hydrogen gas pressure exposure" assertion is correct, it is even a gross understatement, in the P&F original paper they computed something like 10^26 atm IIRC. That's electrolytic compression: if you use a hollow Pd cathode, the pressure inside will rise to tens of thousands of atmospheres, until the palladium envelope bursts. It has been done. Michel 2010/5/8 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>: > The kicker is this "equivalent to many > atmospheres of hydrogen gas pressure exposure." No, the D2 pressure at the > cathode is roughly one atmosphere through the whole experiment.
