At 01:20 PM 5/12/2010, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Obviously Pd creates a barrier that “d2” cannot cross, The controversy is over how the pressure is created.

No. This pressure is created by both hydrogen and deuterium. The high pressure mentioned is created by electrolysis with hydrogen or deuterium generated at the surface of a hollow palladium rod.

Shanahan's cigarette-lighter explanation does not factor for the lack of excess heat when doing this with hydrogen.

The deuterium ice, deuterium clusters, fractional hydrogen and other monikers all describe an unusual state of hydrogen
Associated with this phenomena.

It is an unusual state in palladium deuteride, almost like solid hydrogen (i.e., hydrogen metal) that will sublimate slowly.

The state is always associated with a catalyst and we must therefore assume the energy behind this effect is supplied by the cavity… Is this assuming too much?

I think so. There are cavities involved, likely. However, they are not supplying any energy, apparently, rather they *configure* the reacting ingredient or ingredients. We know that the reaction rate increases with temperature. I suspect that the energy required -- there must be energy required, but energy is not the only "ingredient" -- is generally supplied by ordinary heat.


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