Jones,
                I give Haisch and Moddel much credit for including directional 
circulation  but your coment " Lack of phase-change at or near the trigger 
temperature" .
not only refers to the lack of heating you mention but also  refers to the 
oversize geometry of their patent that IMHO fails to set up an environment 
where Casimir effect can act as a conduit for ZPE. The environment needs to 
offer asymmetrical conditions to the gas atoms which we must then control in 
such a manner as to exploit. I remain a fence sitter regarding the ability of a 
Lamb pinch to qualify as asymmetrical and think it may find a quiescent point 
where the atoms simply oppose migration into the pinch. I have proposed that 
they use bulk powders to sidestep the milling costs and also allows for much 
smaller geometry - despite my reservations I think their method of circulation 
and alternating layers of insulation and skeletal catalysts is way ahead of the 
game.
Regards
Fran
Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR

Jones Beene
Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:42:03 -0800

Fran,







Actually I think the many problems, as I understand what they (Moddel etc)

have done (incorrectly) and why they have not seen thermal gain with Casimir

cavities is three-fold:







1)    Lack of a spillover catalyst (nickel alone is not sufficient).

Spillover is required for pycno to accumulate in cavities.



2)    Lack of a trigger temperature - gain does not happen at ambient, even

with pycno.



3)    Lack of phase-change at or near the trigger temperature.







All are needed, and they provided none of them, as I understand it.







Jones











*  The above is why I remain a fence sitter on the Model-Haisch patent in

that I believe they need to create an asymmetry similar to the change in

bond state used by Moller in the MAHG and a control system to get the h1

deep into fractional states then let it form molecules which nature will

oppose escaping and allow us to rectify "HUP" or "Zitterbewegung" whenever

it pushes the molecule toward escape and discounts the energy needed to

disassociate.









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