I think it is a very good development.

It is even more evidence that the reaction is real and robust.

Safety is NOT the big issue here. The biggest issue is if this works.

If the NRC has a problem with this technology I think that Rossi should just go 
to African nations, China, or India and try to license it to them. It would 
serve the USA right not to have access to cheap/clean energy if the NRC tries 
to 
prevent this technology from being commercialized.





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From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 11:00:10 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Monday Update to Release Information on Self Sustain Mode

  
Jed, all
 
Yes, this development is important, but not exactly for the reason specified. 
In 
fact, IMO - it makes the device far riskier in the eyes of “authorities.” (and 
more subject to eventual political interference by Oil interests). 

 
Not to nitpick, but going from 20:1 P-out/P-in is ALWAYS self sustaining, if 
*controlling the reaction via input energy is not required*, i.e. if the 
“quality” of the input does not need to be specific (i.e. RF or ultrasound, 
etc). 

 
IOW – if a special kind of input energy such as resonant ultrasound is not 
needed, then with a high COP – it is merely a matter of insulating against heat 
loss well enough to retain what would be the equivalent input heat, or to 
extract less heat than the input. So if you believe the demo as presented, then 
this announcement is a strong negative, not a positive.
 
The fact that they can do it without P-in indicates to me NOT that there is any 
fundamental improvement or change from before – but that a ‘runaway’ is more 
likely due to failure of controls. The so-called ‘holy grail’ can easily exist 
in circumstance with P-in required, and in fact that could easily be 
preferable. 
You want a failsafe control mechanism. 

 
Otherwise a runaway is more likely. In fact as far as the ‘grail’ metaphor 
goes, 
I think most engineers would STRONGLY prefer to control the reaction via P-in.
Instead shutting it off such a by controlling H2 pressure - is much trickier.
 
If you want to keep the Nuclear Regulatory people from shutting down your 
entire 
operation – then the very first thing you MUST avoid is a runaway reaction, 
even 
if the radioactive release, is minimal.
 
A runaway could squelch everything from the start. It would not surprise me at 
all if our NRC were not already in talks with the equivalent agency in Italy 
over this very issue – and some of that could be due to political pressure from 
either Oil of the multi-billion hot fusion recipients.
 
Jones
 
 
This is important! Rossi is saying that on Monday, they will upload a report by 
Levi et al. describing a self-sustaining run. This is the Holy Grail of cold 
fusion: a self-sustaining device that produces commercially useful levels of 
power.
 
People may have some doubts about Rossi's credibility, but I think there is no 
reason to doubt Levi and the others. If they say they saw the thing 
self-sustain, I for one will believe it. As I said before, this development is 
not all that surprising. There is plenty of supporting evidence from other 
experiments. There is no reason to doubt that a scaled up machine can be built.
 
It is a little surprising that the breakthrough came with Ni-H. The 
temperatures 
and power density with Ni-H have usually been low in the past, as far as I 
know. 
Pd-D has achieved greater power density.
 
- Jed


      

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