peatbog <[email protected]> wrote:


> Once Rossi
> comes across with a convincing demo or the mw power plant, or
> even does a long run of the 12kw device, it won't be long before
> people figure out what the catalyst is and build the devices for
> themselves.
>


> Patents will be a joke. No country is going to sit around waiting
> for Rossi's permission. Countries will break every agreement
> they have in regard to patents rather than not build the device.
>

I agree emphatically with both points.

On the blog, the Defkalion representative wrote: "For the time being, it is
confirmed that Defkalion will manufacture units up to 20KW for
different non-military applications within 2011, exclusively."

That's naive. It is also a violation of trade laws. You cannot tell your
customer how they can and cannot use a product, except in a very limited
way. For example, software manufacturers have you sign an agreement not to
reverse engineer the product. I doubt that would stand up on court.

As long as the customer uses it for a legal purpose, the vendor cannot
discriminate or refuse to sell. If the use of the product is illegal, that
is a problem for law enforcement agents. (If you knowingly sell something
for illegal purposes you may be culpable.)

Frankly the entire business plan strikes me as naive, totally inadequate to
the task, and one that would leave 99% of potential profit on the table for
others to grab. If this thing is going to solve the energy crisis, or even
have a measurable impact on energy consumption, one small company mass
producing units at the end of 2011 will not cut the mustard. The scale of
that effort is far too small. It is as if the Wright brothers envisioned
themselves as exclusive manufacturers of airplanes in 1912. In fact, there
were a half-million people making airplanes that year, and without that kind
of effort aviation would not have become an industry.

We will need a  half-million or maybe 10 million people working on Rossi
device R&D if they are going to succeed at all. I mean people in many
industries such as automobiles, power generators, space heaters, process
heating, aerospace and so on. These people all have specialized knowledge
that Rossi and Defkalion do not have. There is no way Defkalion could
engineer a system for anything other than a few basic purposes. They could
not expand fast enough or high the tens of thousands of product engineers
who will be needed. Thousands of variations and specialized uses must be
engineered. Also, as I said, every single one will have to pass careful
review by the insurance industry (Underwriter's Laboratory), regulators and
others. This alone will cost billions of dollars, and Defkalion cannot begin
to deal with it.

Underwriter's Laboratory (U.L.) has no legal standing, but de facto you
cannot sell a single product in the U.S. without extensive testing and
approval by them. No vendor will sell it, and no professional engineer or
installers will touch it -- nor should they, in my opinion. No one should
risk his life to protect a trade secret! U.L. demands blueprints and the
exact composition of your product, and of every component in it, down to the
faceplate screws. I have seen their application forms. They want to know
more than Patent Office demands.

There can be no secrecy in industrial products. There has not been any
secrecy since the 19th century.

- Jed

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