i would not ask the secrets of a good friend. But about his performances
yes! And therefore I knew that Ni-H works, therefore Rossi's E-Cat is real
and..works.

Catalitically active oxides work at the interface with the real catalyst in
heterogeneous catalysis.

Do you say NiO is not reduced  to Ni and water in the conditions
of the E-cat?
My guess is that Rossi has a very good method of activation of Ni , this
can-as I already said comprise an additive. But this additive is  a
promoter, not the catalyst per se.
Despite the fact that I was one of the first to say that cold fusion is
similar to catalysis and has to learn from catalysis-
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GluckPunderstand.pdf
I don't think that Rossi has a non-nickel catalyst. Catalysing what?
For the time given  showing that you are original and different, even more
than you really are. Vederemo!

Peter

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Piantelii stated he will hide the secret of Ni-H reaction, even from a good
> friend.
>
>
>
> Rossi has denied every mode of Ni catalytic activity except oxides.
>
>
>
> NiO-H has a role in many hydrogen based catalytic reactions with a highly
> reactive nano-particle surface. And oxide based nano-particle catalysts are
> the next big thing in chemistry.
>
>
>
> NiO provides a possible evolutionary transition between what Piantelii did
> and what Rossi is doing; from a Ni bar surface treatment to nano-particles.
> Lipid based fabrication and production of Fe2O3 is indicated in Rossi’s
> patent; Ni2O3 is compatible with Fe2O3. This is consistent and compatible
> with Ni2O3 formation in Piantelii’s annealing process.
>
>
>
> Piantelii surface treatment of his nickel bar suggests Ni2O3 oxide
> formation where annealing is important. Ni2O3 formation on NiO can be judged
> by a color shift from green to black/green on the surface of a Nickel bar.
> Piantelii stated that he can tell if a bar will work by looking at it.
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Piantelii is my good friend but I do not remember that he has worked with
>> nickel oxide.
>> The problem with NiO is that it will be reduced with H2 and the formed
>> water will build a great pressure in the cell. Not a problem that cannot be
>> solved- e.g. the Cincinnati zircoanium group cell I have worked with was
>> also at a high pressure and we had no accidents.
>> But why NiO?
>> peter
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps you are right regarding Rossi's quality control efforts,
>>>> but I want to ask you- on what basis are you speaking
>>>>  about NiO and not Ni?
>>>>
>>>> As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization
>>>> of say Pd cathodes is much too complex- beyond what is called
>>>> usually quality controll. Terrible difficulties of describing
>>>> metallurgy, morphology, granularity etc.We have to appreciate the heroic
>>>> efforts
>>>> and work of so many good scientists, I think
>>>>
>>>> peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quality control in cold fusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cold fusion has suffered from little or no quality control on the
>>>>> materials used in its reactions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that Rossi’s big accomplishment is bringing quality control
>>>>> to the fabrication of his materials.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After Rossi finally discovered what factors made his catalyst work, he
>>>>> established a specification that optimized those factors in the production
>>>>> of all subsequent materials.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nanoparticle characterization is the mechanism that he would have used
>>>>> to meet this quality control specification.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nanoparticle characterization is required to establish quality control
>>>>> over nanoparticle synthesis and to insure each separate nanoparticle meets
>>>>> performance specifications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The surface coating of nanoparticles is crucial to determining their
>>>>> properties. In particular, the surface coating can regulate stability and
>>>>> dictate reaction performance.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, when NiO Nanoparticles are fabricated in their billions
>>>>> some are functional, some don’t work and some are great.
>>>>>
>>>>> This find granularity is not possible in the manufacturing of rods or
>>>>> plates that have be the standard in cold fusion material formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Rossi moved his product to a nano-technology format, he gained the
>>>>> advantage of being able to impose a rigid quality discipline.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Fully automated nanoparticle characterization is the process that
>>>>> looks at the size shape and surface characteristics of each individual NiO
>>>>> Nanoparticle to determine if that particle is optimized for catalytic
>>>>> operation.
>>>>>
>>>>>  In this process, each nanoparticle is individually tested for
>>>>> activity, and if acceptable is then selected. All below grade material is
>>>>> rejected and recycled back for refabrication where it restarts at the
>>>>> beginning of the processing cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> This precise control of quality of the Rossi catalyst is what makes the
>>>>> Cat-E stand out above its competition.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I posted basis for NiO in the "spculations" thread as per Piantelli's
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg44574.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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