On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
 wrote:


>> "One problem I have with those results. When the current shuts off, the
heat dies immediately. It seems implausible that the deuterium would diffuse
out of the Pd that quickly. I would expect a more gradual decline.
Especially with all the reports of heat after death. That points to artifact
to me."


> And here Joshua let his assumptions of error lead him into a blatant
error, confidently asserted. It turns out that "immediately" is, from the
graph, about a hour. You can see the decline, it's not "immediate." And the
scale on this chart is one day per division, 24 hours!


Right. I guessed wrong. The graph you linked to wasn't labelled. You have to
go back to the original to get the scale; I thought the axis was labelled in
minutes, and it's actually hours.


That weakens the objection, but it doesn't remove it. The complete drop
takes about an hour, but it's very steep in the middle, dropping by half the
amount in about 12 minutes. That still seems like an unreasonable rate for
diffusion, when you consider that a tiny foil in Dardik's experiment
maintains its output heat for 4 days.


We're told that a very special condition is required in Pd for CF, but now
it turns out there are 2 very different special conditions required, one in
which the deuterium doesn't diffuse below a critical level in 4 days, and
the other in which it diffuses below that level in less than an hour. Fishy!


> Joshua just continues to dismiss all this with a wave of the hand. "I'm
not convinced."


Because if it were true, an obvious demonstration would be easy to design,
but in 22 years, there has been no progress. That's why you are trying to
convince me with a 16 year-old graph, instead of directing me to
demonstrations of isolated devices that are warmer than their surroundings.

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