At 11:06 PM 6/20/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

The fact that Rossi has done what he claims is equally self-evident to me. The speculation about wet and dry steam is bunk. The second test proved that beyond any doubt. It is a waste of time even discussing it.


Jed might be right. However, in the absence of the kind of information that is needed to rule out steam quality issues, people are going to discuss it.


As noted elsewhere, it turns out we can rule out steam quality issues, just as Rossi claimed. I should have made that clear when I linked up to the Delta Ohm site, and it also clear from the E&K test. It would have helped if Rossi had said to Krivit: "The meter measures by mass, not volume. Look it up." Instead he got upset that Krivit did not believe Galantini.

We should have looked it up. Krivit should have.

Jed, I'm puzzled. I don't see any sign that the meter measures anything other than relative humidity (and temperature). relative humidity is a ratio, neither mass nor volume. It's a ratio between the water vapor content of air compared to the content of saturated air, which varies with temperature.

The meter isn't rated to measure humidity above 85%! I have no idea what these meters do with steam, it doesn't seem to be what they were designed to do. The probe will withstand 150 C., but all that means is that this temperature won't damage it, and, my guess, it will correctly measure temperature above 100 C. But what's it going to do with mist? Or a mixture of mist and live steam at the same temperature? My guess is that both would show maximum humidity of 100%....

Anyone an expert on these?

What's Galantini's expertise? Does it cover this kind of measurement? Someone might know a great deal, but make a mistake about an instrument where they don't have extensive experience with it. Galantini's certification cited by Rossi was irrelevant, it gave no data at all, no measurement technique, it simply described the instrument he used.

I really sympathize with the skeptics here, there is so much bogosity presented as being unchallengeable truth.

I don't know that Galantini was wrong, I simply don't know what he did! And apparently asking about it is verboten.

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