At 11:06 PM 6/20/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
The fact that Rossi has done what he claims is equally self-evident
to me. The speculation about wet and dry steam is bunk. The second
test proved that beyond any doubt. It is a waste of time even discussing it.
Jed might be right. However, in the absence of the kind of
information that is needed to rule out steam quality issues, people
are going to discuss it.
As noted elsewhere, it turns out we can rule out steam quality
issues, just as Rossi claimed. I should have made that clear when I
linked up to the Delta Ohm site, and it also clear from the E&K
test. It would have helped if Rossi had said to Krivit: "The meter
measures by mass, not volume. Look it up." Instead he got upset that
Krivit did not believe Galantini.
We should have looked it up. Krivit should have.
Jed, I'm puzzled. I don't see any sign that the meter measures
anything other than relative humidity (and temperature). relative
humidity is a ratio, neither mass nor volume. It's a ratio between
the water vapor content of air compared to the content of saturated
air, which varies with temperature.
The meter isn't rated to measure humidity above 85%! I have no idea
what these meters do with steam, it doesn't seem to be what they were
designed to do. The probe will withstand 150 C., but all that means
is that this temperature won't damage it, and, my guess, it will
correctly measure temperature above 100 C. But what's it going to do
with mist? Or a mixture of mist and live steam at the same
temperature? My guess is that both would show maximum humidity of 100%....
Anyone an expert on these?
What's Galantini's expertise? Does it cover this kind of measurement?
Someone might know a great deal, but make a mistake about an
instrument where they don't have extensive experience with it.
Galantini's certification cited by Rossi was irrelevant, it gave no
data at all, no measurement technique, it simply described the
instrument he used.
I really sympathize with the skeptics here, there is so much bogosity
presented as being unchallengeable truth.
I don't know that Galantini was wrong, I simply don't know what he
did! And apparently asking about it is verboten.