Fair enough - I'll check back in six months to see if anything has changed beyond determining who's the smartest person in the forum.

The 3 minute tea kettle youtube video is available via http://psci.us/gold.htm (select 720p resolution).  Not that the three masters degrees under my belt matter (one of which is in nuclear engineering, plus a fourth master's degree by the end of next year), but when I see 'X' amount of steam generated by a unit that appears to produce less than my tea kettle at home, I cannot in good conscience support a technology like this.  Rossi has had more than enough time to validate what he has to outside parties.  It's time for the vortex clan to move on to something else...I have.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea...
From: "Mark Iverson" <zeropo...@charter.net>
Date: Wed, June 22, 2011 12:40 pm
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>

The vortex-l discussion group has been around for decades, and most here aren't really interested in 'pitching' anything other than careful analysis and discussion and debate -- something you should at least try before shouting 'fraud'.  As explained in a posting I made a few minutes ago, determining whether the steam volume or flow rate is adequate cannot be done at the end of a 10' piece of hose that has condensation occurring along its length... 
 
Agreed that this is very unfortunate and a constand source of frustration to all on vortex.... but I think the jury is still out as to whether we are witnessing what is claimed, or human error, or fraud.
 
-Mark

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