> but I think the jury > is still out as to whether we are witnessing what is claimed, or > human error, or fraud. -Mark
The discussion about the steam from the first demo may be interesting, but I keep remembering Joshu Cude's remarks about the video display of the power input that was shown during the demo. Cude, or someone, managed to digitize the display and, according to Cude, it showed that the input power was manipulated in a way that would explain what was seen. Nobody disagreed with what he said. His remarks made me think that the demo was, at best, meaningless, and at worst, evidence of a scam.

