On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Take a look at Fig. 2.2.3 (about 2/3rds of the way down the page) on this
> website:
>
> http://www.spiraxsarco.com/resources/steam-engineering-tutorials/steam-engineering-principles-and-he
> at-transfer/what-is-steam.asp
>
> There is a very clear explanation below the Figure...
>
> This is the best reference and explanation I've seen so far...
>
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> For all those who care to chime in,
> I'd like to know where you think the
> E-Cat is operating along the A-B-C-D
> line segments?
> Or NOT on any of those segments...
> *****************
>
>

That is a nice account. The diagram (2.2.3) is schematic, and the ABCD path
represents constant pressure, so presumably it could represent atmospheric
pressure.

The diagram illustrates nicely why the constant temperature observed means
the ecat is operating between points B and C, and that the enthalpy changes
by a factor of about 8 over that range (depending on the starting
temperature of the water).

Rossi is clearly claiming the ecat operates at point C, and skeptics like me
are saying it is probably operating closer to point B.

Note that none of the quantitative measures that Rossi reports distinguishes
between these two extreme possibilities. The appearance of the steam at the
output, seems more consistent to me with something close to B, rather than
close to C, but we should not have to rely on that. It's a really poor (or
really clever, depending on your purpose) experimental design that does not
measure (let alone monitor) anything relevant during an 8-fold increase in
enthalpy, like the output flow rate, or the temperature inside the ecat.

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