Hello group,
All starts in the following link. It appears that the story is true, in
that the person below did actually get to visit Rossi recently:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=489#comment-70
Julian Brown
July 17, 2011 - 12:41 pm | Permalink
Rossi gave me a personal demonstration of a group of 4 e-cats working at his
premises outside Bologna on Friday 8th. I saw essentially the same set up
reported by Krivit in June.
I was there in the capacity of friendly off-the-record adviser re patenting
issues.
Whilst I didn’t like the tone of Krivit’s June 16 report, I had arrived in
Bologna full of optimism.
I am afraid that I now fully share Krivit’s opinion.
There are a number of reasons for this. Here are a few.
As has been pointed out numerous times on this blog, the dryness of the
steam/water vapur is abolutely crucial to the viability of the e-cat.
Imagine my astonishment and disappointment on finding that Rossi makes no
attempt to monitor the dryness of the output and there was no appropiate
equipment visible on the premises.
It follows that Rossi can not possibly know whether he has 1,2 5 or even 10 percent
unvaporized phase by weight. Passive observers like myself, Krivit, Essen &
Kullander have even less chance of determining this crucial parameter.
Even worse, since the output tube went straight through a hole in the wall to
be vented/flushed outside, it could have been pure hot water and nobody, least
of all Rossi, could possibly know.
Basically, the whole set up defies even approximate quantitative calorimetric
analysis.
Another odd thing was that Rossi pumped up the electrical power for a minute or
two shortly before turning it off and allowing me to see that the water kept an
output temperature of 100.5 for a couple of minutes.
This gave me the impression that it was a performance for my benefit and not
the rigorous testing procedure that the technician sitting in front of the PC
appeared to suggest.
The final clincher for me is that Rossi made a point of telling me that he was
currently vaporizing 15 litres / hour.
BUT, the peristaltic pump was exactly the same one he uses in all
demonstrations and it was pulsing about once every 2.5 seconds.
I make that 3 litres / hour, only 20 percent of what Rossi told me verbally.
And yet this small flow was being shared amongst 4 e-cat modules. That isnt
much of a stress test is it ?
The small chimney will result in a small overpressure and a boiling temperature
> 100 Celsius, so I am not impressed by 100.5 Celsius
I must admit that I didnt reach these dismal conclusion on the day. It took
about 3 days of pondering what I had seen before all the pieces of the puzzle
dropped into place.
It may be this explains why Rossi has been able to convince so many qualified
people.
You dont want to believe it is just a gross and extremely simple circus trick.
He certainly has a charming manner; I liked him and would never suggest he has
criminal intent. My hunch is that he did make a discovery that goes beyond the
level acheived by Piantelli and Focardi, but that he got too enthusiastic too
soon, before he had really done due diligence. He is now trapped in the web of
commitments and claims he has made. A tragic figure really.
PS I was in experimental atomic physics research at Oxford from 1981-1989 and
have since that time been an employee of the European Patent Office.
A user named Paul Story (owner of eCatNews blog) told Rossi about this
post on JONP:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497&cpage=16#comment-53773
Paul Story
July 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Dear Dr Rossi,
Someone calling himself Julian Brown from the European Patent Office said (on
the eCatNews site) that you demonstrated the eCat to him personally on the 8th.
His comment is curiously detailed and my first reaction is to doubt its
authenticity. Can you confirm that this informal demo did or did not take
place? I intend to make a post about it to demonstrate the type of attacks you
are under if that is the case.
And this was Rossi's answer:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497&cpage=16#comment-53792
Andrea Rossi
July 17th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Dear Paul Story:
Very funny: this clown, named Julian Brown, wrote me saying he was an officer
of the Patent Office and that he wanted give me suggestions.
I received him to get those suggestions, curious to know about what he had to
suggest. I was working in my Bologna lab when I received him ahd he saw one
E-Cat under test for no more that 30 seconds, after which I invired hin to
exit. He made no tests, he saw nothing, he just has taken a 30 seconds glance
at a totally closed box. He saw nothing, I said nothing.
We agreed, after a short meeting, that he would have mailed to me a text of a
patent that he thought would have many probabilities to be accepted. After some
day I received from this clown some text simply ridiculous, and in these text
there was written that my patent was based on patents made from my competitors.
I made a research and discovered that the patents of my competitors he referred
to had not been granted, but had been refused. Of course he has been sent from
such competitors to spy and to try to mess up with patents.
Conclusion: he lies when he says he made a test, he lies when he says he has
seen an E-Cat enough to say anything about it (just has taken a 30 seconds
look), he lies if he says he has seen the steam, he saw nothing because the
circuit was ermetically closed, he lies when he says that he is or has been an
officer of the Patent Office, he lies when he says he is an expert of patents,
he lies when he says that my Competitor he works with has a patent on this
matter granted in 1995.
It is clear that somebody, desperate of the fact that a 1 MW plant is close to
be started up, is trying to use all the method of a snake to try to put clubs
in the wheels. But all this is just clownery: my plants will give evidence in
the real marlet of the validity of my effect.
It is also clear that at this point I cannot give any more info or courtesy
visit before the start up of my 1 MW plant.
We will see how this story will develop. I fear however that if Julian
Brown is really an EPO officer (I haven't investigated), Rossi will have
a hard time now getting his European patent approved.
Cheers,
S.A.
