At 08:42 PM 8/17/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Hmm. Not all Arabs are Muslims... In my city, most of them are
catholic Christians and there are almost no Muslims.
2011/8/17 Alan J Fletcher <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
At 04:41 PM 8/17/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'll take on your bet that a 5% Dry fully-atomized stream is
possible. One pint of beer/glass of wine ?
I don't drink alcohol. Read the name.
My apologies. Equivalent value, then ... say $5. Means of delivery
to be determined.
Bets without an agreed-upon test and procedure for determining that
the test has been satisfied are a formula for conflict. I'm quite
confident that it can be done, but we have not:
1. A described test of the device, or alternate method of showing
that it's possible.
2. Anyone willing to put in the substantial work to actually
construct such a thing? I see no value to it except maybe I could
sell the technology to frauds, but once it was known, it would be
useless for that!
3. It might be completely moot. I.e, suppose Defkalion starts
shipping Hyperions. Who cares, then, if the Rossi demonstrations were
poor? Historical interest, maybe. How much work are you willing to
put in for something of shallow historical interest?
Instead, I'll simply point out that one can make an atomized spray
with an *atomizer*. A little pressure behind a device, with certain
characteristics. The resulting spray of droplets will travel quite
some distance before disappearing into even dry air. If the atomizier
is spraying into air at 100% RH, they won't disappear at all. If that
air is moving, they will move with it. If the temperature is boiling,
that will be, then, "wetter steam."
It's pretty simple. If I'd accepted the bet -- I did not -- I could
claim that you obviously owe me $5. Or are you claiming that
*atomizers* can't be made?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomizer_nozzle
(What happens at the outlet opening if there is liquid overflow is
not the same as an "atomizer" in the Wikipedia definition. But the
effect would be similar, a spray. The WP definition claims that the
liquid vaporizes, but doesn't actually mention that it would probably
then immediately condense when the pressure returns to ambient. I
don't expect vaporization at the outlet port, rather the reverse. The
steam is at maximum pressure at that point. Pressure would then be
relieved as the flow enters the hose, so there would be some
immediate condensation, from cooling due to pressure drop. The
cooling, however, unless the steam is *really, really* wet, will not
change the temperature except a little (basically to boiling at the
reduced pressure).
