I agree that we can view virtual photons as expanding through our lower 
dimensional 3-di "Plane" I think of this expansion in terms of a photon 
"traveling" half a wavelength then disappearing. From any standpoint the 
Quantum Photon Flux is imparting momentum to matter (or else it doesn't matter 
anyway!)
Furthermore, if we consider a photon flux from 3-space through 2-space, it is 
as you say, a dot appears to expand into a circle, then contract again into a 
dot and disappear.When a 4 or 4+ space sends photons through our 3-space, then 
these appearing-disappearing circles intersect every possible plane in our 
3-space.
I really don't see why this perpendicularity prevents these photons from 
exerting real forces in the many ways that have been attributed to the Quantum 
Flux.  If you accept that there is an electromagnetic Q-Flux then you must 
acknowledge the possibility that it exerts radiation pressure on matter. If 
this is true, then my various proposals are very plausible.
Incidentally, light in a medium other than space moves slow, yet imparts more 
momentum to a mirror that is located inside the medium; therefore, even a 
stationary photon may impart momentum to an adjacent surface in the direction 
of its propagation, since its action on matter is due to the transverse 
movement of the wave.
Researchers have created materials that have negative (not fractional) indices 
of refraction, it is thought that light might exert tension on a material 
instead of pressure. Again, such light could only do this if its transverse 
field motion is what causes it momentum-effects.
Again, I really think I can do this, but I really need help.
Scott

From: froarty...@comcast.net
To: scott...@hotmail.com
CC: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Fran & Group: Please Reconsider the following 
pointTime-Frame-Based  Casimir Effect
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:20:14 -0400



Scott,    
You are knocking on precisely the door I have been trying to open but the 
language so easily perverts between time and space when you switch perspectives 
between different inertial frames. The task is further obscured by our position 
that an apparently “stationary” region inside a cavity can utilize suppression 
to generate a different [equivalent?] inertial frame based on changes in the 
unit time instead of changing the velocity of an object[a gravity hill].    I 
agree with your “pressure” analogy which can trace its origin back to Puthoff’s 
atomic model which is then further accumulated / segregated by virtue of 
Casimir geometry. Where I disagree however is that these “pressures” could have 
a spatial bias without use of a 3rd  body to create an asymmetry – My posit is 
that the stream of virtual particles exist in a rolled up dimension that is 90 
degrees displaced to our spatial plane and where this stream intersects with 
the spatial plane the virtual particles appear to grow from nothing outward 
into our spatial dimension at a specific xyz coordinate and then just as 
quickly shrink back out of our spatial dimensions in a never ending stream. 
Therefore the “pressure” is balanced along the time axis and it requires a 3rd 
body to interact with these fields in an asymmetrical manner to force the 
balance to redistribute between time and space. My bet is that hydrogen atoms 
used by Rossi or Mills are exchanging time for energy and would be much older 
than hydrogen that was never circulated through a cavity – We know the 
difference in light speed thru a Casimir region is only infinitesimally faster 
than C as perceived outside the cavity but this is the most rapid example of an 
object transitioning the region and piloted directly thru center of the cavity 
– think about the accumulating dilation of an object such as a gas atom 
residing for hours and slowly migrating into ever decreasing geometry with the 
possibility of fractionalized atoms achieving confinements up to 137 times 
smaller than a normal atom could achieve.RegardsFran 
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:38:41 -0700 Wm. Scott Smith wroteThe Quantum Vacuum 
itself exerts radiation pressure all of the time on everything. As measured 
within the accelerated time-frame, photon collisions of a given intensity are 
happening at exactly the same rate as the corresponding photons that manifest 
outside of the cavity, as measured from that external time frame; however, when 
we stand outside of the cavity, we see these equally energetic collisions as 
happening at a faster rate, inside the cavity and we conclude that more outward 
directed momentum is being imparted, inside the cavity than outside the 
cavity.The observer inside the cavity would see the same difference in forces, 
except he thinks the outside world is passing through time more slowly; 
therefore, he concludes that his side of the cavity walls are receiving 
momentum at a normal rate, but that the corresponding photons are striking the 
external walls more slowly.In other words, both observers agree that there is 
more outward directed pressure inside the cavity than there is inward directed 
pressure acting on the exterior of the cavity.Again, the pressure is the same 
inside and outside the cavity in each of those time frames, but they both see 
the same resulting difference in pressure from their own perspective. Really, 
the question hinges on whether the inside surface of the wall is in a different 
time zone than the outside surface . I think, if our theory is true, that the 
surfaces inside the cavity must  be inside the faster time zone since it is 
this very surface that is causing the time-rate shift. Otherwise, the space 
would still be too small for the longer waves!What is causing the Casimir 
Effect if what I am saying is not true?Scott                                    
     

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