In my opinion steam enthalpy is both necessary and sufficient. This is an industrial test not a scientific one. The question is if these two new surprisingly short tests are more reliable and convincing than the former 7 ones. "to generate heat" and "to be a new energy source" are not identical.
Peter On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Horace Heffner <hheff...@mtaonline.net>wrote: > > On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > > a) See the E-cat run in the self sustaining mode >> >> http://www.nyteknik.se/**nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/**article3264362.ece<http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3264362.ece> >> >> b) Here is Rossi' s 1 Megawatt plant: http://www.nyteknik.se/** >> nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/**article3264361.ece<http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3264361.ece> >> >> Peter >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.**com <http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com> >> >> > > > The experiment report is very interesting: > > http://www.nyteknik.se/**incoming/article3264365.ece/** > BINARY/Report+E-cat+test+**September+7+%28pdf%29<http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3264365.ece/BINARY/Report+E-cat+test+September+7+%28pdf%29> > > http://tinyurl.com/3lqn52r > > Various problems with other runs fixed. A long run will be even more > interesting. Situation is now complex due to no thermal equilibrium being > established. Constant dynamics require *measuring* cumulative energy in vs > out. Hopefully some kind of calorimetry will be done on the output, and > cumulative energy in vs energy out will be measured via kWh meter and > independent calorimetry on the steam/water output. > > It would be nice if everyone could use the standard thermodynamics > definition of "steam quality" or "vapor quality". "The quality of steam can > be quantitatively described by steam quality (steam dryness), the proportion > of saturated steam in a saturated water/steam mixture.[4] i.e., a steam > quality of 0 indicates 100% water while a steam quality of 1 (or 100%) > indicates 100% steam." See: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Vapor_quality<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapor_quality> > > Steam quality chi is given by: > > chi = (mass of vapor)/(mass total) > > "Mass total" clearly includes liquid water, because a steam quality of 0 > indicates 100% water by mass. > > Best regards, > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~**hheffner/<http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/> > > > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
