yes, but what's going on since 1989 is more collective mutual delusion, rather than deliberate lying, in most cases -- as one who has twice failed radically at attempting day trading stocks, I notice that Ponzi schemes in all their variety constitute much of what is still presented as legitimate business activity -- disconfirmation is interpreted as some personal failing, not as evidence for the profound delusion of the entire field -- in addition, the unimaginable unity and subtlety of the present moment of awareness is the ultimate source of invalidation of all perceptions, concepts, and projects -- so question everything deeply for yourself, as Buddha advised -- tend the garden of your own present moment of awareness, as Voltaire ended his novel "Candide" -- Google "nonduality"...
within mutual service, Rich Murray On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Peter Heckert <[email protected]> wrote: > I have two souls inside my chest: > I want to believe it, but I cannot believe it. > > My intellectual mind says, no this will not work. They are all lying like > mad. > > When I first heard about this I did not know much about this. > I have readed that Levi claimed there where energy bursts of 100 or 200 kW > some months ago. > > With my todays knowledge I know, this is impossible, because it is > impossible to measure this amount of energy with this machine even if it > would be true. > If it really happens for more than some seconds then the machine must > explode or the core must melt down. > If it happens for less, then it cannot been measured. > > So I think, he told us a some obvious nonsense lies from the beginning on. > I cannot trust a scientist who tells such stories without reasonable > scientific and technical explanation, how this happened. > Therefore I cannot trust persons who trust him. > > Also the claims of Defkalion in their forum must be untrue and Rossi doesnt > comment this and still is big friend with Stremmenos who is Chief scientist > and vice president of Defkalion. > > I dont know why they do this. Do they take drugs? Have they all invested > money? Is Rossi addicted to this role to be an inventor like a junkie? > Did they ever seriously check the amount of energy? > Or is this a social group effect where every member of the group is proud to > tell some new success stories and the other members believe the stories > without seriously testing? This is what happens in religious groups. > > We know from history there are such cases. > > My other mind says, yes there was some energy observed by Kullander and > Essen. But I dont know if this was achieved by a trick, because the amount > was low. > > I ask myself, when NASA tested Ni-H fusion sucessfully in 1995, why didnt > they follow this path and made a definitive proof? > Why did Piantelli make Patents and stop this research, when they had so much > success? > Why doesnt Mills produce any products? > > Why isnt there a clear and repeatable key experiment to proove LENR effects? > > Metal hydrides are heavily used in industry and very well researched. When > magnets are ball-milled they are converted to hydrides and they are milled > in a hydrogen athmossphere. This is done because the hydrogen removes the > magnetism. > Why arent there cases of explosions or overheating? > > I remember Mallove years ago announcing devices soon going in production. > This where impossible thermal pumps, producing more output than input as > well as "cold fusion" machines. These announced machines where never seen in > reality. > Some of them are Perpetuum mobiles of first kind. > > Now, if a movement has such prophets, then it is hard to believe anything.
