I enjoy your truth-full spunk --  my wife and I have read some Eckhart
Tolle every day for years -- I let A Course In Miracles work on me
daily since August, 1977 -- yes, no evidence possible in any dream,
while awareness-being is not dream or even source of dream -- peaceful
dreams conveniently allow some vacation space to explore relaxing
beyond dreaming
 --  "row row row your boat gently down the stream, merrily merrily
merrily, life is but a dream..."  we sang in 1954 Presbyterian summer
camp in Bastrop,Texas -- yes, I've myself acted outrageously many
times in life -- now limit it to posts on the Net, being 69 -- within
mutual chagrin, Rich

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:41 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
<orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

> Ah... I seem to have an overpowering urge to ramble on for a bit. Please
> feel free skip the following soliloquy if one is easily bored by matters
> pertaining to the care and feeding of our inner psyches. I've noticed that
> on more than one occasion commentary attributed to Mr. Murray seems to bring
> out a desire on my part to meddle with the opinions of others. It seems to
> generate a desire within me to pontificate at my own expense – and obviously
> to the expense of anyone else so inclined to eavesdrop. You have been
> forewarned! ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> From Rich:
>
>
>
>> yes, but what's going on since 1989 is more collective
>
>> mutual delusion, rather than deliberate lying, in most cases
>
>> -- as one who has twice failed radically at attempting day
>
>> trading stocks, I notice that Ponzi schemes in all their
>
>> variety constitute much of what is still presented as
>
>> legitimate business activity -- disconfirmation is interpreted
>
>> as some personal failing, not as evidence for the profound
>
>> delusion of the entire field
>
>
>
> Exactly whose delusions are we wrestling with here?
>
>
>
> As previously mentioned, I attempted to make a profit in the commodities
> market. I was trading commodities close to real-time. What I was doing was
> not all that different than trying to make a living as a Day Trader. I lost
> a lot of savings in my attempts, and needless to say I wasn't too happy
> about it. (I can sympathize with your own circumstances, and I feel your
> pain.) Fortunately for me, the economic damage I was personally responsible
> for was pretty much self-contained. I didn't pilfer the savings of anyone
> other than my own accounts, and as such, only had myself to blame when it
> came time to paying my bills. ;-)
>
>
>
> FWIW, when forced to confront very blunt lessons, such as the loss of a
> significant amount of money due to one's own misjudgments, it becomes easy
> to become overwhelmed by the painful memories & the consequences that
> ensured. They can color one's outlook on life. It's easy to become
> suspicious, even cynical about the subsequent actions and motivations of
> ourselves and of others as well.
>
>
>
> It's at this stage that one must be alert to the possibility of projecting
> the memories of our personal failures onto the actions of others –
> particularly activities that seem to strike an unpleasant chord within our
> own psyches. This certainly applies to what has been going on in the CF
> field for the past 20 years. It also includes Rossi & Co, and any potential
> competitors who might be out there, like Piantelli. However, trying not to
> project the circumstances of our own failures into of the perceived actions
> of others is NOT an easy lesson to master. I’m still working at it.
>
>
>
> In other words, It takes one to know one.
>
>
>
>>                    -- in addition, the unimaginable
>
>> unity and subtlety of the present moment of awareness is the
>
>> ultimate source of invalidation of all perceptions, concepts,
>
>> and projects -- so question everything deeply for yourself,
>
>
>
>
>
> On the surface this sounds like an interesting comment, maybe even profound
> on some transcendent level. However, to be honest I don't get what you're
> trying to say. Are you implying our perceptions at every moment in time are
> prone to be invalid - inaccurate??? Well, shoot! Scholars and religious
> leaders have been debating the reality of our existence since the dawn of
> mankind. In the end, who cares! Regarding the more intriguing phrase
> pertaining to "...the present moment of awareness" – I'd like to follow up
> with the comment that it has been my experience that a more practical way to
> perceive reality is to stay focused on the present moment. Try to remain
> conscious of one's own inner "being-ness" and of one's presence in the
> external surroundings. Speakers like Eckhart Tolle, inform us of the fact
> that we often seem get overly caught up in convoluted memories of painful
> past actions, or we get caught up over real or imagined fears of what the
> future may bring for us. What Tolle and other speakers of his caliber have
> tried to suggest to their audiences is that all of these fixations subtract
> from us the simple fact that the only way to change bad things that have
> happened to us (from the past), or what we fear could happen to us (in the
> future), is to stay focused in the present moment. It’s only in the present
> moment where we can actually do something about the past or future matters.
> It’s only in the present moment where we can initiate changes in our life.
> However, I suspect there are many who find much of Tolle’s writings and
> lectures to be a tad boring. Ah well, to each his own.
>
>
>
>>  as Buddha advised -- tend the garden of your own present moment
>
>> of awareness".
>
>
>
> No doubt about it. Buddha was a cool dude. Well ahead of his time.
>
>
>
> Pertaining to the matter of opinions, Buddha also sed -  People with
> opinions just go around bothering each other.
>
>
>
> http://quotations.about.com/od/spiritualquotes/a/buddhistquotes.htm
>
>
>
> Ok, I think I've done enuf bothering for one spell.
>
>
>
> * * * * *
>
>
>
> In the meantime, I’ve heard all the Rossi “previews”. Like most here I’m
> looking forward to the October 6 Rossi Show. I’ve got my popcorn, and hoping
> the show will at least be entertaining, if not informative.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Steven Vincent Johnson
>
> www.OrionWorks.com
>
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>

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