Mr. Rothwell never attacked me personally. He merely labeled all remaining skeptics as ignorant/blind/foolish/etc. I think that there is still room to question the results, and I'm certainly not the only one. I think that the ad hominems can stifle open communication, and I thought that they did not have place here. Now, in questioning the thermocouples, I'm apparently violating the laws of physics and without a 7th grade education. A public forum should be a safe environment from ad hominems, but maybe I misunderstood. I may not have a "degree in Japanese", but I was studying quantum mechanics at Fermilab while still in high school. Nevertheless, I'll take a back seat, or "get out of the kitchen" if this is how you guys cook.
Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: >Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> On 11-10-17 03:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >> >>> Robert, >>> >>> You state: >>> >>> You [Mr. Rothwell] may disagree, and now be 100% convinced, but it's your >>>> personal attacks that are troubling. >>>> >>> Where has Mr. Rothwell attacked you personally? >>> >> >> Well, if Robert is claiming that there was no energy generated, then the >> item from Jed which he quoted would apply to him, and that sure sounds like >> an ad hominem to me: >> >> "Skepics who claim that ... there was no energy generated ... are ignorant. >> They lack 7th grade knowledge of physics." >> >> That is not an attack on the arguments. That is an attack on the skeptics, >> themselves. Jed has personally attacked /all/ "Rossi skeptics", it would >> seem. >> > >It would not be an attack on Robert if Robert is, in fact, in the 7th grade. >He might be. Or his science education may have ended then. > >There are many people who have no knowledge of science beyond junior high >levels. I have met some high and mighty Wall Street investment bankers >interested in cold fusion who would not know the Second Law of >Thermodynamics if it bit them on the butt. > >Such people are common in the U.S., and always have been. Read Mark Twain >and you will see. > >Being ill-educated it not dishonorable. What is dishonorable is to refuse to >educate yourself more; to challenge your assumptions; or to perform a simple >test in the kitchen to see what happens to hot water in a poorly insulated >metal vessel in 4 hours. > >I am pretty sure this is junior high level material because somewhere I have >a junior high physics textbook, in Japanese. I recall this kind of thing was >covered in it. Granted, their classes tend to be more advanced than ours. >Anyway, I can't find it. > >- Jed
