Magic is a subject about which I am not well informed. Please review the graph that I suggested where you take the raw data from Lewan's report and plot T2 versus Seconds in an XY plot. The correlation is essentially perfect between the driving pulse shape and what I expect to see at T2. The power input is the first derivative of energy with time and so a plot of the energy contained within a square power pulse is a perfect ramp during the high portion of the pulse and constant afterwards. The energy directly causes a temperature rise within the core. It becomes apparent that the core responds to temperature changes proportionally and emits energy into the heat sink, etc. Now, you see an almost perfect ramp in temperature rise at the T2 thermocouple as a result. After the peak of the linear ramp, the temperature curve takes a smooth rounded curve to begin falling as the extra heat energy of the core is conducted away. This is when the device heads into the self-sustaining mode where it rounds off and remains fairly constant.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rocha <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:32 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production David, how can you exclude the possibility of hidden chemical resources? 2011/10/27 David Roberson <[email protected]> The ECAT is not dry during this time, in fact it is filled with water. A small region of vapor probably exists above the water. I do not agree that T2 can change without energy being absorbed by the water. All indications are that the water is in good contact with the probe. Of course the pressure will change with T2. That is expected for a saturated liquid with vapor above. The entrance to the heat exchanger is maintained at one atmosphere +/- since any extra pressure would expel the water from the pipe. No one mentioned anything except smooth flow visible during the test. I asked Mats Lewan about this issue regarding his measurement of water flow. There will be a direct relationship (function) between the pressure and temperature(T2) within the ECAT and output power delivered to the exchanger and other loss items. We are seeing incorrect indications at the exchanger output presently because of thermocouple placement. The real power at the output is much more reliable. There is no superheated steam. If you look at the T2 readings as a function of time you do not see any unusual fast variations that can not be explained. It is well behaved and changes very slowly as extra heat is added to the water. The pressure changes are virtually all due to the temperature changes. Actually, there is one region that I cannot explain. That is where the relatively low temperature at T2 starts to rise most of the way through the test. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leguillon <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production You are placing a lot of stock on minor variances of the T2 temperature. ave you considered that no energy increase is necessary to increase the T2 robe temperature? It is highly unlikely that the E-Cat is bone dry, and the team is being superheated. It is much more likely that the fluctuations in utput temperature are caused by changes in the E-Cat pressure. ith the same, unchanged input power, a small increase in back pressure (water illing up the heat exchanger output house, or accumulating at hose bends) would ause an increase in T2 temperature, and a decrease in the amount of water aporized. ince we have no measure of the amount of water being boiled, this change would e opaque. nd, of course, the thermocouple at the output could see spikes from small hanges in the grams/second of water or water vapor. (this is assuming that its lacement has rendered the amplitude of its reading meaningless)
