>> Joshua:
>>> If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
>>> scientific establishment.
>Mary:
>> I disagree.  With the present evidence, there is every reason to be
>> skeptical of Rossi.
Joshua:
> That's true. The skepticism of Rossi is justified.

Skepticism is justified, but what Krivit has provided, has nothing to
do with skepticism, but is more like that he is rebelling and sulking
to Rossi, because Rossi was not nice to him. Rossi treated Krivit
really bad and unfair way. I almost sorry him, because Rossi ridiculed
everything that Krivit so proudly stands for (i.e. Krivit is rigorous
scientist).

> But if Rossi were to
> prevail, then the scientific establishment will have clearly failed to
> exploit a dramatically important effect identified 20 years ago -- an effect
> that is pretty straightforward to set up, and that should be trivial to
> demonstrate unequivocally.

This is true that the Rossi's effect is trivial to demonstrate
unconditionally. But this is also the reason, that Rossi has not had
any interests to provide conclusive evidence to the public. I would
speculate, that his popularity was perhaps too high, due to very
positive reports in Italian media in May in aftermath of successful
April tests, that he invited Krivit to discredit himself.

What Rossi showed to Krivit was just abhorrent and awful and there was
no question, that most likely there was no excess heat at all.

Evidence for this is very clear, because small E-Cat never reached 5
kW output in previous demonstrations, but it was always around 2 kW.
But also the input power was small. But here Rossi raised the input
power to 800 watts, which was very odd. This does not fit at all for
the general behavior of version 2 E-Cat aka E-Kitten.

Rossi was already building the new model of Version 3 aka Fat-Cat that
was demonstrated with Stremmenos in July (he announced the fat-cat ca.
June 20th). It is not Rossi's style to show old models of E-Cats in
demonstrations. Therefore it is most likely explanation, that Rossi
only used Krivit to tarnish Rossi's own reputation by acting silly in
particularly obvious way and showing dummy demonstration.

Rossi anticipated that Krivit will write very angry scientific report
and indeed it was a great success, because Rossi's media popularity
went downhill. E.g. Physorg published very negative article citing
Krivit's report in NET.

I think that this is plausible explanation, because if Rossi wanted a
good reputation he would have gained it easily. But he never even
tried. I think that the main problem with Rossi was that the whole
January demonstration did not suit into Rossi's plans. Because he
wanted to have public announcement when he was commercially ready in
October.


Mary wrote:
> If Rossi produced, why would Defkalion not pay him?  It's supposed to be the 
> most
> valuable invention of the century!

Because Defkalion was a phony company! (This is just my opinion, and
it is based on similarly loose arguments like Krivit's arguments
against Rossi. All pieces just suit well that Defkalion had anything
substantial.)


Mary:
> The purpose of controls (more precisely, blank runs in which nuclear fuel is 
> left out
> but an electrical heater is providing comparable power) is to demonstrate 
> that the
> measurement *method* and *devices* are working correctly.

But it easier to calibrate the method during the drive. Even if
thermocouple is misplaced (what is unlikely) there is still
correlation between temperature and total enthalpy.

Blank run is just too time consuming, but is far more valuable to do
proper calorimetry with proper calibration of the method.


Mary:
> ALL of that is gone if a blank test with an electrical heater gives the 
> correct result at
> the output measurement end.  Rossi knows that -- he's been told many times by
> probably dozens of people.  That he doesn't do it is a strong suggestion that 
> his
> reaction isn't real.

Rossi does not allow it because the suggestion is nuts and wasting of
time, because it is better to do proper calorimetry. Or perhaps, there
was a blank run in June with Krivit's E-Cat. Why skeptics are not
satisfied with that blank run!

   –Jouni

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